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Best punk bassist ever

ive liked some of his lines before.. but overall i cant put up with them for long enough to appreciate them. the music sounds fine.. but after a while all the political lyrics start to piss me off.

ive seen them live by accident, and they could have played another set in the time they spent b*tching about the government, setting up confetti cannons and playing anti-war music.

Exactly. I've seen them a few times, and for all the talking they do, I don't see why they don't just stop play music and start doing public service announcements or something. Plus they've been talking about how they're going to change the world for about 15 plus years now....it's not going to happen guys....
 
The problem is you start getting the douche bags saying things along the line of "They arent punk" based on whether they like 'em or not, missing the point of the genre itself.

Agree with the other statement too, while I dislike most emo, the original "emo" has some great offerings (Dag Nasty :bassist: )

any genre is going to have eras divided by time. in their day, the ramones (whom i think are a bunch of pussies) were as punk as say.. bad religion. obviously very different sound.. but in their time, both considered staple punk rock bands.

so thats when the sub categories come in. i consider the ramones "70's proto punk rock", whereas i will call bad religion "80's punk rock". this is of course subjective to what time period you are from and what you like.

same goes with metal. bon jovi is as metal as sepultura. different time periods and brands of metal. so bon jovi will be "hair metal", which tends to give off an immediate idea of what you're addressing. sepultura would get considered "post thrash alt metal". again.. perspective.. but it seems to get the idea across.

i think i keep them pretty straight and descriptive with little to no bias. that being said.. those statements would drive my buddy dave absolutely nuts.

emo got a bad wrap and now its just type cast as anything that is whiney. it was replaced "goth" and was replaced by "scene". its silly.. but it happens.
 
Back in the day they were called hardcore.

Mmm, I dare say X never called themselves hardcore...

that's exactly what I was thinking. okay bassist, now where's the punk.



I oughta smack you.

FIGHT!!! :D

Dee Dee Ramone hands down!solid as a rock,even doped up and wrote some great tunes.I'll argue that with any one.

lol you know when he started he couldnt even tune his own bass? but he did write most of the ramones songs (allegedly)

ive liked some of his lines before.. but overall i cant put up with them for long enough to appreciate them. the music sounds fine.. but after a while all the political lyrics start to piss me off.

ive seen them live by accident, and they could have played another set in the time they spent b*tching about the government, setting up confetti cannons and playing anti-war music.

I totally agree...he is impressive, playing those lines and singing...but the message is just insanely extreme. not to mention they don't really do much to change the "system"


Richard Hell started the genre and is the best.

proof please that richard hell started punk!
Last time I checked the books (yes I read books on it, I did my thesis on the emergence of American punk rock), Hell thought of himself as a poet-rocker.



Anyone heard of Stray Bullets or the Have-nots?

Basically the same band - sorta...

I shameless peddle their awesome sound whenevers I can :D

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