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Best way to get upright sound?

I'm trying to play old jazz and standards and want the sound of an upright. I can't afford the money (or space, or time to learn) for any decent upright. I am not gigging, this is strictly for studio recordings. I am on a kind of tight budget, maybe $400 or so. I am thinking that some kind of AEB (like an Ibanez or Dean) with tapewounds, maybe fretless, would be best. Possibly a UBass. I've tried and like the UBass, but I have two big concerns with it:
1. Seems like a one-trick pony, not a lot of versatility. Although it might be best for what I'm looking for here.
2. I'm concerned that ukuleles are a fad right now, and 10 years from now, it might be impossible (or ridiculously expensive) to get UBass strings. They are the only instrument that take those particular strings.

Any suggestions on basses, strings, etc. for this purpose would be appreciated. I currently have a P-bass, but more and more I'm thinking I won't ever be happy with it for this purpose.
One more question: If I get a fretless (probably with fret markers), is it a big job to learn technique for it (i.e. proper intonation), or is it easy enough with fret markers?
 
I have a friend who plays a Godin fretless A4, Dean Markley groundwound strings, and uses the Roland VB-99 unit on the upright setting. It's UNREAL.

Sorry, I know that doesn't help you with a $400 budget.

edit - I see you play a P. A lot of guys will chime in to tell you that a P bass has a real upright sound but I just don't get that one.
 
The closest I get with a bass guitar is a Japanese hollowbody that sounds surprisingly close to an amplified upright. I got it for a whole lot less than $400, and even with some work by a luthier, it is well under $400. The only problem is finding anything like it.

It is possible to approach an upright sound with a P. The way I have done it is to stuff foam into the bridge ashtray, string it with flats, preferably dead flats, and don't roll off the tone knob at all. Upright bass has a lot of midrange and treble in it, so you can tweak the settings on your amp a bit to get closer.
 
Pretty much what everyone has said. To my ears, a P gets maybe a little closer than a jazz, but stuff foam or cloth under your strings by the bridge and string with flats. Unless you really want an ABG, I'd advise against that, though it can be done, again, stringing with flats. Weather you want fretless or fretted is up to you.
 
Keep your amp's pre-gain(s) as low as possible and use only the master output gain for overall volume. IME, this helps you get that transparent acoustic bass tone. Strings don't have to be flatwound, but they must be fully broken in if not completely dead. One of the things that makes an upright bass sound the way it does is that it is naturally a low-output instrument. You emulate those natural tendencies with an electric bass by subduing the volume early in the signal chain and then not overdriving the speakers.
 
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There are a lot of different DB tones. It's a bit like saying 'I want it to sound like a bass guitar'. If you're after the fretless middy snarl - you're going to need a fretless option. If you just want a bassy muted thud that will be hidden under a wall of other instruments - thats a bit easier. A foam muted semi-acoustic or P bass at a pinch might pull it off.

All the the suggestions are only going to get you close so it depends how fussy you need to be... and given you want it to be versatile as well... I think you might be asking too much from a single instrument.

A Kala U-Bass would be my recommendation. But I would probably forget trying to sound like an upright and treat each option on its individual merits. I have a fretless acoustic bass that sounds great - different to my upright but has its own tone and fits its own niche.
 
There are a few threads covering this topic, and the answers are always "Get a Real DB". However, just as the OP of this thread hasn't the money/time/inclination for upright intonation, many of the other threads concerning "making a slab sound like a DB" the OPs were in the same boat.

So, here you go OP, as close as you'll get given the constraints of time/money/equipment – the following from here you go OP:

A few years ago I was walking downtown to an outdoor concert by a local blues band. As I got closer, the sound of an upright bass wafted through the sultry evening air. I picked up my pace, eager to see who was playing such a great sounding doghouse.

Imagine my surprise when I arrived and didn’t see the big girl, but instead an electric bass played very convincingly. How can you do that? I suggest three ways that combine for a total effect.

Way #1: Think Fake!
The first key to faux upright is to think upright. If you’re already an upright bass player, you have a leg up on the whole deal. But if not, listen to some recordings of upright bass and you’ll notice:

1. Fewer notes are used to get the job done.
2. Each note carries more meaning when it’s played on upright.
3. Notes bloom from a slower, rounder attack.
4. Once a note sounds, it fades away more quickly than on an electric bass.

With these four elements of the upright sound in mind, you’re ready for Way #2.

Way #2: Play Fake!
Both left- and right-hand playing technique can help you fake that upright sound. For the right hand, you have two choices: palm muting or playing close to the neck. Palm muting produces a round attack with a darker tone, with quick decay… great for slower tunes or ones based mostly on quarter notes. Your mental image of the upright sound will be helpful in fine-tuning your sound.

The technique for palm muting involves resting the heel of your palm gently on the strings close to the bridge while plucking the strings with the fat part of your thumb. Both the amount of pressure on top of the strings and where you rest your hand make a difference, too. Experiment a bit until you find what you’re after.

Playing closer to the neck—or even over the fingerboard—can produce a different sound from your usual two-finger technique. If you play fingerstyle funk, you pluck closer to the bridge for a bright sound with a nice bite to it. Going the other way produces a rounder attack and a deeper sound. Be sure not to pluck the strings too hard when you try this. Combine this trick with a bit of help from your left hand to control a note’s duration. To do this, damp the note after the initial attack by raising your finger off the fingerboard.

One last technique trick is to play notes up higher on a fatter string. For example, play a B-flat on the sixth fret of the E string, instead of the first fret of the A string—you’ll have a fatter sound with more emphasis on the fundamental and less of the upper harmonics.

Way #3: Process the Fake!

Okay. You’ve seen how getting an upright sound out of a fretted electric bass comes from a combination of mindset and playing technique—that gets you eighty percent of the way to your goal. To push the fauxupright effect a bit further, do a little electronic tweaking of the sonic qualities. The most simple of these is to roll off the tone control of your electric bass at least half way to eliminate finger noise and high frequencies that give away your upright ruse.

You can enhance your EQ trickery at the amp by bumping the low mids (around 100 Hz) while reducing the upper mids (1kHz) and highs. You don’t need a huge fundamental, but the tone should be smooth and thick sounding. One last trick is to use a somewhat heavy dose of a limiter or compressor to knock down the front edge of the note and then let it swell up as it releases.

Off to the Woodshed!
So there you have it: three ways to fake a big, thumpy upright bass if the need arises. Now you just need some practice. Of course, if you’re trying to get a bowed sound or develop that growly, modern upright jazz style, these tips won’t get you there. And of the three ways, I’d have to say that the mental image of an upright bass is most crucial. If you have that part worked out, the playing technique will follow.

Dan Berkowitz
Dan is a professor by day and a bass player when the sun goes down. He plays both electric and upright bass in blues, jazz and pit setting.

For some, it's all about Underwear:
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-make-an-electric-bass-sound-like-an-upright/ :wacky:

While nothing sounds like my upright except my upright, my friend's Kala fretless U-bass that I've had on loan for more than a month now is fun and kinda catches the vibe if I palm-mute and 'think upright'.
 
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I experimented with a fretless with flats played through an impulse loader with a string bass impulse. It had the resonance of the string bass body but the attack was wrong. It needed foam or something. Needs more work but it was getting there.
 
I just bought a Gold Tone MicroBass that uses Aquila Thundergut rubber/plastic strings. It's 23" scale, 20 frets, 35" long, all mahogany cutaway acoustic/electric and goes for around $375-$399 US. I just started playing bass and wanted something small and acoustic to play with my ukulele group that sounds like an upright. I like the Gold Tone better than the Kala configuration all the way around. (I'm also having a custom gig bag made to fit my 13.3 tablet, floor and music stand.)
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I've played a Gibson SG bass with tape wraps to get a good woody upright sound while playing jazz. With a small amp and a little EQ adjust I've had a pretty decent sound for jazz.
 
I play double bass as well as bass guitar, both a lot. I don't think there is any holy grail of making a bass guitar sound like an upright, because mostly it doesn't. Playing an ABG is not the right approach - esp. because many use roundwound strings and that's not even close sound-wise. If I want to sound close to an upright, I use my 1978 fretless Fender Precision with flats and a touch of reverb from an EBS Dynaverb. (see pic.) Some of those Rob Allens sound great for this purpose, but they are not cheap.
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I think you at least have to use a fretless if you're serious about this.
 
I have a friend who plays a Godin fretless A4, Dean Markley groundwound strings, and uses the Roland VB-99 unit on the upright setting. It's UNREAL.

Sorry, I know that doesn't help you with a $400 budget.

edit - I see you play a P. A lot of guys will chime in to tell you that a P bass has a real upright sound but I just don't get that one.

I'm sure that Godin sounds good like that. Never tried a Godin, but I'd like to. As to the P - my old fretless P (the "Unprecision" bass) does pretty well, but I'd agree that many Ps don't sound much like an upright. Depends a lot on the exact model and the strings.