Just did that, all through the Crest, adding in the Millennia too.
All great flavors of excellence there ...
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Big E Speakers Part 4 - Quadraphenia
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Just did that, all through the Crest, adding in the Millennia too.
All great flavors of excellence there ...
The college radio station in Jefferson City (KJLU) plays big band music on Saturday mornings. One of them is the "Airmen of Note", so I may have heard DPR play and not realized it. Excellent group of musicians. They have some female vocalists are flat-out amazing!!!
Those Ciare tweets are suhweet.
I'm not in the airmen of note, but yeah they are one of the best jazz bands around. I've been in a rock band my whole career and loved every minute of it, great gig with great players and the Air Force buys me pretty much anything I want gear wise.
I got to play bass in the US Coast Guard marching band while I was in boot camp, but it was a baritone horn. 
I wonder if you have a guitarist named Matt G. in your AF band?
Nice DPR!
I have a question for those who have gigged both the MAS-112 & any of the horizontal MVW cabs.
In the band mix, do you notice a difference in the way the cabs disperse the sound either on the stage or out in the room?
Thanks for your input.
I have a question for those who have gigged both the MAS-112 & any of the horizontal MVW cabs.
In the band mix, do you notice a difference in the way the cabs disperse the sound either on the stage or out in the room?
Thanks for your input.
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I have 2 1x18 SWR and Eden I like the Eden better it has smoother sound SWR is too muddy. I 'am actually going to possible sell my combo and SWR Cab and Eden and get a Cerwin Vega Folded Horn. They are great for bass even though there used as PA Speakers. I have 15 inch Cerwin house stereo speakers from the early 90's they are great will never get rid of them also a onkyo receiver the same age and onkyo 6 disk changer I just Bought its probably 5 years old or less I paid 25 bucks for
At the risk of seeming ignorant, which are the "vertical MVW cabs"? Seems to me that the 112 and 109 would fall into that category (ports/bells on top and bottom), whereas the 45 and 46 would be "horizontal" (ports on the sides), though it seems that people run them both ways. Are you asking if there's a difference between the vertical and horizontal MVW cabs, or something else?
Sorry, brain-fart! You are correct! I meant horizontal like the 46 compared to the vertical like the 112...
Can you tell a difference in the way they project both up-close & out in the room?
I was reading about the development of the 109 (1-10", 2-mid/high drivers) in Mike's section of the BigE Forum that when it is positioned horizontally that it is more forward in the midrange than when it is standing vertically. He didn't specifically address how this response may have changed further out...
I'm still getting to know my 112 -- I've only had it out a few times. I did own a 66, but I never had the two side-by-side. Someone like Dirt Poor Robbins, who's got a bunch of the cabs and gigs them regularly, would be able to offer you more informed feedback. For what it's worth, though, standing right on top of the cab on stage, I can hear the 112 a little better. It's taller and the tweeter and two of the mids are firing at an upward angle. Angling the 66 back might have obviated this, but I never tried it.
I haven't noticed any shortcomings in the 112's dispersion. I had it next to my 2x12" cab the other night. The 2x12" has vertically stacked drivers, with a 6.5" mid. Playing that cab next to a 4x10", I've noticed that the sound is noticeably more even off-axis. I walked around the house a bit while my friend played and the 112 sounded more consistent yet, off-axis, than the 2x12". The 66 might have taken that a step further -- I remember walking around the house several times with that cab while others played and feeling like the sound was everywhere, but, as I said, I haven't had as much time with the 112 yet and am still getting used to it, so I can't say for sure.
On-stage -- I assume re. bandmates hearing the bass clearly, the 66 was great in this regard. Played without any bass in the monitors a few times with no problem. Drummers remarked on this more than once. The soundman consented to leaving me out of the PA the other night, but insisted on keeping me in the monitors, so I can't offer a comparison yet on that ground.
Yeah, seems like I remember Mike doing some special cabinet tweaking to get the vertical cabs to come out with a balanced sound compared to the horizontal cabs.
Thanks.
Will be able to say more as I get it out more. I can say that on this last outing I was able to hear myself very clearly. Used it with effects (a rarity for me) and, as noted by others, those were pronounced and clear.
For me the 112 is the best tone for me. All the other mas cabs have a very distinct similarity in their tonal profile with different variations. It's hard to explain, it's mostly in the upper bass region (200hz), but the best way to say it, is every time I got a new cab my first reaction was "oh yeah it's a mas cab" with the 112 I didn't have that reaction, I thought "wow this is definitely a different design and tone." Dispersion though is similar. For me I notice a more even stage volume, it doesn't flood the stage with too much mud or bass, I've yet to have anyone ask me to turn down with the mas cabs, but have with other cabs in the past.
How do you compare the 112 to the Flex 110? I'm quite happy with the Flex, more out of curiosity for comparison from someone who owns and is able to compare the two side by side - thanks.
The flex has that unique big e sound (a little more in the upper bass) and is quicker sounding than the 112. The quicker sound is more apparent when slapping, as if the note comes out before I even play it, when playing finger style it's not as exaggerated. The 112 is more even in the upper bass and for me that translates to better clarity in the mids, and for me it has the nicest highs with both the tweeter on and off.
I believe none of the big e cabs have too much upper bass anymore, two years ago that may have been the case (at least for me) but Mike spent a lot of R&D making these cabs better and now all the cabs are great. The cool thing is, even though I don't like the upper bass bump while playing solo, it helps the bass tone fit perfect in the mix, that eq point helps punch and gives you that "punch in the chest feel" that's why I have four mas rigs, they all do things different but really well. The 45 is the best for upright, and the 110flex is not good for my upright. I can use either the flex plus sub or 112 plus sub on the big stages and be happy on the rock/pop gigs.
I believe none of the big e cabs have too much upper bass anymore, two years ago that may have been the case (at least for me) but Mike spent a lot of R&D making these cabs better and now all the cabs are great. The cool thing is, even though I don't like the upper bass bump while playing solo, it helps the bass tone fit perfect in the mix, that eq point helps punch and gives you that "punch in the chest feel" that's why I have four mas rigs, they all do things different but really well. The 45 is the best for upright, and the 110flex is not good for my upright. I can use either the flex plus sub or 112 plus sub on the big stages and be happy on the rock/pop gigs.
