That's a cool use of the wedge. The 45+25 should be a flexible setup.Happy gig report! Still borrowing Mike's 25.5 prototype while I'm waiting for my 45.5 to be constructed. That's my 25.5 on top, prototype on bottom. Terrible room! Just awful! Stage was basically a cave tucked into the side of low-ceiling basement. I'm absolutely floored with the sound of these things. Huge, clean, authoritative sound with headroom to spare! Kept the EQ on the Clarus flat with the HPF set at about 2 o'clock. So round and punchy but with great note definition. I really enjoyed myself last night!
Comparing the Faital 5s with the Eighteen Sound: Very different. To my ears the 18S are quite flat where the Faitals had a midrange bump. I would typically back off the mids a great deal on the Faitals in all but the worst rooms. The 18S sound much fuller and a lot louder.
I cannot wait to hear my 6x5.5!
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Big E Speakers Part 4 - Quadraphenia
- Thread starter kesslari
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Should I understand by this that you're getting both the 66 and 112? Each cab you mention is potentially a one box solution, but then that depends on what you're trying to solve! Whichever you get, I hope you enjoy it.
Yes sir. You understand perfectly
. Told you I was gonna dip maybe more than my toe in the MAS mojo 
. Yes, you're right, each is potentially a 1-box ticket. And with both being 8-ohms (which the 18Sound 112 is & the 6x6 will be), they match up for Vd & RMS just about perfectly. The only way to match 2 boxes better is for them to be identical. But from my understanding, w/MAS product, this isn't an issue. I'm taking their collective word on it 
. They're on the record on this so much, I can't believe that it isn't true. Anyway, I'll sure be finding out 1st-hand.What am I attempting too solve? Uh, um, well, I suppose (in all honesty), that'd be ... nuthin'
. Probably will end up moving one unit along at some point, but that point'll be down the road "a fer piece." And in the interim, I'll most likely be wearin' a big 'ole shyte-eatin' 
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When I had my (18sound) 112 at church taking pictures before selling it, I had to play both at once just for the experience. Big, full, and authoritative are three words that come readily to mind...
I want a 112LPT pretty bad... but I have yet to find a gig that the 109 won't handle!
I wonder how that combo would sound with the 112 oriented horizontally with the 110 sitting on top. One would have ports and drivers all lined up rather nicely!
When I had my (18sound) 112 at church taking pictures before selling it, I had to play both at once just for the experience. Big, full, and authoritative are three words that come readily to mind...
Working on a place for interested folks to hear and share these cabs Link Removed
My Walkabout asked me for an LPT the other day. I think it's sad that I haven't been taking it out lately and favoring the higher wattage stuff. The WA sounds good through my 18-Sound 112, but that cab just needs more juice on a loud-ish gig than the 200 or so watts I'm guessing the WA pumps into it - at least if I want any clean headroom. Based on my recent experience with the Flex Mod, though, easily coasting with a 500 watt micro, I want to try the WA with it (haven't yet, not even at home). I know that setup (top+sub) will take more juice than the WA (or a 500 watt micro) will put out - and Mike recommends more amp for that cab - but I want to see what that combo will do - the Flex, when running both cabs, was more efficient than I anticipated.
Would love to join you all, but a bit too much of a haul. Have a good one, y'all!
I am finding my Monique 700 to be a perfect partner for the 18Sound 112. It really pumps it into the zone.
I think that Monique and the 112 are well matched, and I imagine that the 700 power section would be close to ideal for that cab (not to mention that you could drive two of the 8 Ohm, 18 Sound cabs with it).
Oh no you di-ent!
Actually it really is a wonderful if not ideal combination. Very punchy and accurate, yet still warm and old-school sounding. This rig really produces such an accurate representation of the sound of my basses. Even though the Monique has a bit of a dark tint to it, it is still very clear and precise. I dig that!
It's late, I'm bushed, so I'll attempt brevity. 210 Flex, both cabs, same jam, different soundman (drummer is running sound tonight). He's not at all fond of the idea of leaving the bass out of the monitors. I get a friendly but pointed lecture on how it will make me turn up too high and throw the mix out of whack, but, after listening to my reasons, he agrees to try. With the bass-heavy keys and the bass-heavy guitars already in the monitors, I'm convinced that leaving the bass out can only help. Nevertheless, I try to watch my volume, keeping it on the low side of I-can-hear-it-clearly. Partway through the set, I am asked to turn up. Nice. Check in with folks on stage a bit after that and everyone can hear me clearly and says the bass sounds great.
First bass jammer has a Jazz with flats. Sounds great. Try him with the phase default and flipped. Settle on default. When he's done, I find that he turned the amp down a bit from where I'd set it for him. Still heard him clearly.
Second bass jammer (guitarist recently taking up bass) had a boomy sounding sixer that he played right at the end of the fingerboard. Flipped the phase, and that tightened things up but thinned out the low end a bit. Added in some bass and mids at 700 Hz in the KXB500 and that, with the phase flip helped his sound significantly.
Cab made good stuff effortless and bad stuff obvious. Heard the unevenness in my right hand on a tricky little riff. Sixer guy did some good stuff but his right hand attack was very uneven and notes stuck out all over the place. Subway-to-Venus-intro style funk riffs, though, flowed like liquid (as long as I did), with every note smoothly connected but clearly heard.
The 112's voicing is closer to "my" sound by default - bit leaner, tighter, and more mid-forward. The Flex is bigger, a little more relaxed in the mid-mids, and more lush sounding overall. Like a really athletic Luther Vandross. Not what I'm used to, but addictive. THICK but clear, sweet but articulate. Will play around some more with EQ - still learning the cab.
Bass was in the PA (wasn't going to push for leaving it out), but stage sound definitely contributed to the house and didn't seem to interfere with the PA. When I stood in front of the PA (yes, earplugs) it was clear that the sound from the Flex was more focused and better controlled down low than that from the mains and subs.
Again, covered the gig with the Master volume around 9:30. I have to bring the 112 out here again - this jam hasn't been as stupid-loud of late as in the past, but I don't remember it being this easy.
Slap was just silly.
This isn't a living room cab. Needs a little room to open up.
The top cab is considerably heavier at 2:00 a.m. going up stairs than it is at 8:30 p.m. going down.
First bass jammer has a Jazz with flats. Sounds great. Try him with the phase default and flipped. Settle on default. When he's done, I find that he turned the amp down a bit from where I'd set it for him. Still heard him clearly.
Second bass jammer (guitarist recently taking up bass) had a boomy sounding sixer that he played right at the end of the fingerboard. Flipped the phase, and that tightened things up but thinned out the low end a bit. Added in some bass and mids at 700 Hz in the KXB500 and that, with the phase flip helped his sound significantly.
Cab made good stuff effortless and bad stuff obvious. Heard the unevenness in my right hand on a tricky little riff. Sixer guy did some good stuff but his right hand attack was very uneven and notes stuck out all over the place. Subway-to-Venus-intro style funk riffs, though, flowed like liquid (as long as I did), with every note smoothly connected but clearly heard.
The 112's voicing is closer to "my" sound by default - bit leaner, tighter, and more mid-forward. The Flex is bigger, a little more relaxed in the mid-mids, and more lush sounding overall. Like a really athletic Luther Vandross. Not what I'm used to, but addictive. THICK but clear, sweet but articulate. Will play around some more with EQ - still learning the cab.
Bass was in the PA (wasn't going to push for leaving it out), but stage sound definitely contributed to the house and didn't seem to interfere with the PA. When I stood in front of the PA (yes, earplugs) it was clear that the sound from the Flex was more focused and better controlled down low than that from the mains and subs.
Again, covered the gig with the Master volume around 9:30. I have to bring the 112 out here again - this jam hasn't been as stupid-loud of late as in the past, but I don't remember it being this easy.
Slap was just silly.
This isn't a living room cab. Needs a little room to open up.
The top cab is considerably heavier at 2:00 a.m. going up stairs than it is at 8:30 p.m. going down.
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Believe me, I've already been a pondering that as well. Driving two of those with that amp would just freakin' slay!
Don't encourage me bro!
I'm trying to be good for awhile!!Of course if I just sold my other three cabs, and one of my microamps, .....
