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Biggest mistake a band ever made

#121
Illini10 said:
Chuck Berry isn't dead.

He still did the stuff you mentioned, but he is still breathing.
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In fact he keeps being exploited by a wide family circle of his that constitute most of his band. At least was so 2 years ago. Apparently (based on many chronicles I've been reading) a painful to watch spectacle in which the man can hardly tell what song he's playing onstage, sad :-(
 
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#122
kenneffdupriest said:
Good to see there's still thoughtful ppl in this world.

With that being said I think that Blind Melon and Alice in Chains shoulda changed their name before replacing their dead vocalist with someone that sounds just like them. But what do I know
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I don't think the new vocalist in AIC sounds that much like Staley. I think he's closer to Cantrell. His voice lacks the character, but is more consistent. All IMO of course

Either way, he's twice the musician Staley was. And I say that as a huge fan of Staley and AIC. If they'd have changed the name it would have been the death of their careers. People still remembered the band, but not Cantrell.
 
#124
I had the fortune spend several years working with a producer who will go unnamed who had more than 100 platinum record credits. I was his right hand man and assisted in writing, producing, and running the board. We typically worked with 3 bands a day, roughly 300 a year. What I saw is that very few musicians or bands could write a hit or had any understanding of the industry. Most of what they wrote or loved was crap. It was a constant fight them to do what was needed for them to be successful. More than half who gained any notoriety and control immediately went to what 'they' thought they needed and crashed and burned. This producer was followed diligently by a number of artists for several decades. These artists went on to be some of the most stable and biggest names in the business. From what I have seen, it is very rare to have a single musician, and even more rare to have a band that can get along, that understands both the music culture and the business.
 
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#126
40Hz said:
Fleetwood Mac bringing in Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks.

The Moody Blues hiring Patrick Moraz to replace Michael Pinder.

Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention for never getting beyond Frank's sarcastic, condescending misanthropic personality and his penchant for juvenile lyrics. This could have been one of the truly great bands of all time if it didn't lose so much to Frank constantly having to be a smartass - and not very funny once you ran out of pot and tried listening to some of his music. I knew a guitarist like that. Dude could really play as well as write a great song. But he always had to weigh them down with bitter and sarcastic lyrics loaded with sexual innuendo - which he refused to change.

So it goes. You can't argue with crazy.
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I agree on Zappa. People always quote him as if he had these pearls of infinite wisdom, but he was just an over opinionated guy who didn't think a lot of his opinions through like the rest of us. IMO of course.
 
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this was a show about what really happens. The false reality bubbles, cabals, exhaustion, and Non Communication. The worst was Kajagoogoo who fired their vocalist because it cured their embarrassing popularity with teens "problem". Forever.
 
#128
swafran said:
For me the biggest one really is Pink Floyd. David Gilmour needs Roger Waters' story-telling to decorate with his guitar, and Roger Waters needs David Gilmour's musicianship. Both of their solo efforts, and all their great Floyd-era collaborations, prove this.
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And they both needed Rick Wright more than Waters would ever admit.

Of course Nick being only the drummer is easily replaceable.
 
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blue4 said:
I agree on Zappa. People always quote him as if he had these pearls of infinite wisdom, but he was just an over opinionated guy who didn't think a lot of his opinions through like the rest of us. IMO of course.
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That's the problem with self-confessed 'geniuses' like Frank Zappa and John Lennon. Bright guys who are clever with words who eventually become so enamored of their own 'superior' intelligence that they develop an absolute loathing for the rest of humanity.
 
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#132
40Hz said:
Fleetwood Mac bringing in Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks.

The Moody Blues hiring Patrick Moraz to replace Michael Pinder.

Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention for never getting beyond Frank's sarcastic, condescending misanthropic personality and his penchant for juvenile lyrics. This could have been one of the truly great bands of all time if it didn't lose so much to Frank constantly having to be a smartass - and not very funny once you ran out of pot and tried listening to some of his music. I knew a guitarist like that. Dude could really play as well as write a great song. But he always had to weigh them down with bitter and sarcastic lyrics loaded with sexual innuendo - which he refused to change.

So it goes. You can't argue with crazy.
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FZ Crazy? Maybe. But you have not listenend to his whole portfolio if you cannot find more purity. Listen to Grand Wazoo, Hot Rats, Wakajawaka and One size Fits all......Best and most complex rock fusion there is. And I like the funny stuff. Frank had integrity. HIS music would never sell.....he used humor to sell records and never compromised his music doing so....
 
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India_Sierra said:
I make this post in the utmost respect to many of the bands here. It takes a lot of love for a band to admit their mistakes when you really like them.

John Mclaughlin: When he created the John McLaughlin trio in 1988, his first choice of bassist was Jeff Berlin. They didn't get on, apparently and their was allegedly some conflict because Jeff wanted to have his amp on stage during the live shows, which John didn't want. Whatever the reasons, Jeff left the band and was replaced by Kai Eckhardt, who was a good fit. However, I've listened to the bootlegs of the original trio and it is John McLaughlin at his most senstive and soulful, accompanied by the best gun for hire bassist in the business. I could weep for thoughts of that trio not working out. They are good friends now but I feel the opportunity was missed to forge a great recording history between two world class talents. Jeff could have taken McLaughlin's music to a higher plane.
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This is all post Mahavishnu post Miles post Narada and irrelevant to Shakti as well. Johnny McLaughlin's higher plane was established by
Bill Frisell is the interesting guitarist now...
 

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