A massive pile of hit songs that are still listened to?
While Gene are Paul aren't the most impressive guys technically, they were both diligent competent songwriters with a very strong drive to succeed.
As is, a huge chunk of their recorded output was done with session guys. Peter by the fourth album, for example, was almost always replaced by a session guy. So the actual *players* on a lot of their stuff *are* musicians. So....I'm unclear on your point.
I don't argue that the Kiss audience loves them and still listens to their records, and I understand why.
As far as the members not being able to make a record as a band, I've never been turned on too much by music recorded by a band that does not play their own music together in the recording studio, and hires (on the clock) studio musicians to play what they are told to play, even though there are occasional cases where that has worked out great.
My point is some bands play poorly to the point of barely being a band, and it's always been hard to get to excited about them, like the Monkees and Paul Revere and the Raiders.
Kiss was signed for the exact same reasons that the Monkees were signed.
Their manager Bill Aucoin was a TV Producer, he was looking for a product to sell to pre-teens and that is what he got.
The Monkees is an example, The Beach boys is another, neither were real bands.
I was sixteen and worked at The House of Guitars, a large music store, when the first Kiss album was released.
All 40 employees (aged 16-25) that worked at that store were musicians or trying to be and everyone there thought Kiss were for younger kids.
The people that showed up to buy their records were almost all 10-11 year old boys, it was obvious that the band had aimed their record and whole cartoon persona directly at that audience.
There has always been a market for those pre-teen bands, they had previously been more pop singer and less rock band and primarily aimed at a female audience like they still are now, but those bands had never been taken seriously by listeners over the age of pre-teen.
Kiss became the exception when their pre-teen male audience had birthdays and became teens and adults.
So, I have a hard time seeing them as anything other than that, I was five years too old to get the Kiss thing....sorry.
I see them the same as Ricky Nelson back in the old days, New Kids on the Block for my daughter, or Justin Beiber now (even though Beiber can sing very well).
Well, now we're just running into opinion, then.
Pretty much the whole thread is just opinion.
I knew this was gonna be a dumb thread because of that, but started it anyway.
I wanted to find out what other people here thought were big mistakes bands had made.
Here is where you're wrong...Dio,Gimmicks,Alice,GnR, etc.
Opinions are opinions, not right or wrong.
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