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Billy Sheehan parts ways with Ampeg?

ray, all the problems loud/ampeg has can be traced to one person who has been kicked to the curb...that is the former head idiot of loud, jaime engen. he is the one who moved ampeg to china and started putting out heads that don't work in order to rush them to market, he is the one who ordered design changes that turned out to be design flaws, and he is the one who fired the entire artist relations department in favor of his own cheaper idiots, and he is the one who bankrupted loud by trying to cut corners in an effort to put the extra money in his pocket. backfired on him bigtime, too.

so yes, a lot of longtime endorsers left. but a lot of longtime endorsers are still there as well. maybe they'll all leave when their contracts run out, maybe they won't. who knows? but i do know that the current head of ampeg, pyotr belov, is an actual amp designer who respects the ampeg legacy and i believe he's trying to put it back together for them. he moved them to a better factory in south korea, he started an american division of ampeg, and i believe he's working hard to get qc back up to a high standard. but it ain't gonna happen overnight. loud is in bankruptcy right now, and it's a lot easier to bankrupt a company flush with money than it is to build back a bankrupt company.

however, as someone who uses rented ampegs on a lot of my gigs, most of which are new, i can tell you that whereas the quality of loud products i've been supplied used to be hit or miss, all the loud products i've been supplied lately have been fantastic.

of course the damage has been done, so i really can't blame people for not wanting anything more to do with ampeg. hell, there was a time i was warning people on here not to buy ampeg as well. but i stopped because i believe pyotr is a much more honest, caring, and competent head of ampeg than jaime engen, and the results in the field have been much better (the times i've been supplied a non-working ampeg product, it has always had a date from where jaime engen would have been in charge). as for artist relations, i couldn't care less. never bought ampegs because of artists who endorse it anyway.
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180531937967

OMG!

I can't f***ing believe I just won Billy's Line6 POD!!:hyper::D:hyper::D

This is so awesome!
y***y and a***n, SHOW YOURSELVES!
Trying to outbid me at the last minute!:mad:
It's mine now! You lost!

The eBay seller is going to have Billy autograph it for me.
I'm pushing for the seller to get Billy to do a quick picture with the item. It's an absurd request, but perhaps!

Now onto the more serious matter. How can I be certain that it's really Billy's POD?
The seller has 99.9% positive feedback over close to 5500 transactions, so I figure he should be legitimate.
Also, he does have other gear with Billy's name stenciled on it.

What do you guys think?
 
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180531937967

OMG!

I can't f***ing believe I just won Billy's Line6 POD!!:hyper::D:hyper::D

This is so awesome!
y***y and a***n, SHOW YOURSELVES!
Trying to outbid me at the last minute!:mad:
It's mine now! You lost!

The eBay seller is going to have Billy autograph it for me.
I'm pushing for the seller to get Billy to do a quick picture with the item. It's an absurd request, but perhaps!

Now onto the more serious matter. How can I be certain that it's really Billy's POD?
The seller has 99.9% positive feedback over close to 5500 transactions, so I figure he should be legitimate.
Also, he does have other gear with Billy's name stenciled on it.

What do you guys think?

I hope I'm not stealing the thread, but I'm so excited that I just got an email back from Billy himself!:D

Hi Joseph,
Yes--that was my original Pod. It's first generation w/ a replacement chip (it was an upgrade to that unit). I used it on a zillion recordings. If I can, I'll take a photo--but I'm in the middle of tons of writing/recording. It would be tough to coordinate. Would a letter of authenticity suffice? Let me know. Either way--its a great device that served me well for many years. If you get it, I hope it does the same for you.
Very kind of you to say that about my playing--thanks Joseph! Jaco was very special for me as well.
Take care!
Yours,
Billy Sheehan
 
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Ampegs problem is it is not USA built. Anything else other than USA built is a copy....a replica of an Ampeg. Regardless of who owns it Ampeg has to be 100% American built. If that reflects in cost then so be it, after all a Ferrari made any where else other than Maranello, Italy is not really a Ferrari we want to own if we want one.:rollno:
 
same reason i bought one of dave larue's old tube works cabs for $250. not like billy's paul mccartney star level, you know?

and fergie, having heard several different chinese ampeg heads and cabs and being able to ab them on gigs with usa models made shortly before they moved to china, i'll take a "copy" any day. loud's former boss idiot may have done a lot of screwed up stuff to ampeg, including rush heads to market that weren't up to snuff, but credit where it's due: he never made cabs out of chipboard.

also, ampeg makes svt's in american again. heritage line.
 
That Ampeg sold with 1 bid for less than $800. I was shocked!
How awesome to be the buyer!

Why weren't more people interested?
I'm not much of an amp guy, and I don't have that much money, but if I had the money and liked bass amps, I would totally bid on it.

More people were.... but the "have no money" problem is fairly widespread these days. You should see my "to buy" folder in my browser. It is packed full of a laundry list. Can't do anything about it either. *sigh*
 
well i guess he's past the point in scientology where they tell you not to associate with "wogs," or non-scientologists ;)

but hey, i kid scientologists! not my thing but i'm all for anything that makes people happy in their lives. and billy seems very happy.
 
Ampegs problem is it is not USA built. Anything else other than USA built is a copy....a replica of an Ampeg. Regardless of who owns it Ampeg has to be 100% American built. If that reflects in cost then so be it, after all a Ferrari made any where else other than Maranello, Italy is not really a Ferrari we want to own if we want one.:rollno:

The Heritage series is built right here in the NW, USA. As is the newer Neo line of cabinets. Everyone complained and they are responding.
Just no pleasing some people.:rollno:
 
Billy is a good guy! I sent him an email once and he actually responded.

Yeah, Billy posts his email address, and apparently responds to as many messages as he can.

I've actually been dying to send Billy an email about something for a while now, but I've never had anything meaningful to say and didn't want to waste his time.

It was quite a thrill to see that email from him pop up in my inbox, and then have him say the gear I just bought on eBay was indeed his, and not only that, but he used it on many recordings. :D
 
If the people managing artist relations for Ampeg are anything like the tech-help/customer relations people at Loud Technologies, I'd be surprised if they had any EA's left by the end of the year. In order to have business relationships, you need people who are competent enough to manage them.

All I saw were the 810's. Ampeg seems to be dropping/losing artist left and right. Quality may have gone to the crapper but I wouldn't think that would cause their EA deals to go sour.

What gives????

God Bless, Ray
 

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