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Birdsong Club

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Welcome aboard Coleman,
I don't have a bass amp, (Actually, I ain't even a bass player, just a wanna be plunker) I just plug it into the Hi Z input of my Akai dps24-MKII----24 track recorder...I don't play live...only in the basement, but it records well that way also. You are going to love it!!:hyper:
 
Coleman - I believe you are member #48. Welcome to the family. My fretless is Fusion Body w/Cortobass pickups (albeit without a tone knob or varitone). Very nice versatility!

I have run my Birdsongs through the following:
Fender Bass Sidekick 10"
GK Backline 1x10
GK Backline 2x10
GK 400 RBIII + Eden 112 (+Ampeg SVT15e))
Hartke Kickback 112
Hartke A35 (belongs to Scott at Birdsong)
Peavey TKO 15" (both Scott's "shop test amp" as well as an identical one that belongs to our drummer)
Genz Benz Shuttle 3.0-10T (+Ampeg SVT15e - sometimes in place of the 10T cab and sometimes in addition - this is my current rig)
Fender 300 Pro + 8x10 cab (on-loan house amp at local multi-band event)
Another Fender head + 1x15 cab (house amp at local open mic)
Roland KC550 keyboard amp shared with our drummer's electronic kit
 
oh...and I also tried both of my Birdsongs through the rig that Mitch (slejhamer) had in his practice room around the time he ordered his Cortobass. He'd have to tell you what that was at the time.
 
Uh, a quick question, if no one minds?

If I were to order a 5 string, to be tuned EADGC, would it still have the double string through on the lowest string they do for B strings?
 
I would assume it still could, since while it's more work than not having the DST, it's still the same work as a normal Hy5.

Were I to order a Hy5, I would likely go EADGC with the DST on the E. :-)
 
It would not be necessary but your question would have to be directed at Scott, the #1 wood gnome at Birdsong...

Ah, thank you, I'll have to get in contact with him sometime then. :)

I would assume it still could, since while it's more work than not having the DST, it's still the same work as a normal Hy5.

Were I to order a Hy5, I would likely go EADGC with the DST on the E. :-)

I suppose it would be wisest, as you could later change to BEADG if you wanted, or get a drop tuner...
 
a question.....

I am debating a hy5 or cortobass. It seemed on the demo cd that these two had slightly different tones.

Is there anybody out there who r can say if they do in fact have slightly different tones and if so can you elucidate a bit.

I really like the tone on the cortobass the best based on the demo tracks but I would love to have that low b!

thanks!

Coleman
 
I have a fretless Cortobass and a fretted Hy5 both are mahogany/maple with Chromes and varitone. I would say that the tone is very similar due to the varitone and the Chromes even though the pups are different...this is a totally subjective opinion. :)
 
oh...and I also tried both of my Birdsongs through the rig that Mitch (slejhamer) had in his practice room around the time he ordered his Cortobass. He'd have to tell you what that was at the time.


Gotta test the memory ... I think I may have had a GK 400RB-IV into an Avatar 112, or maybe it was the Carvin 410 at that point ... I also had an Eden Nemesis 2x8" at the time, iirc.

The GK now lives at church, powering an old Hartke XL 410, but the sonic beef comes from a Tech 21 VT Bass pedal in front of the GK (which is set fairly flat.) The VT is dialed in to the Ampeg "flip top" setting in the manual; more appropriate to our sound than the big boomy SVT setting.

If I didn't need the amp as my "stage monitor", I'd run the Cortobass into the VT Bass pedal into a DI box and that would be it. Ultimate "mini rig of doom."

For home / playing at the neighbors, I have an Eden WTX-500 (totally overkill for my needs) and one of the new GK Neo 112 cabs. Very different from my church setup, but the Corto sounds great through this gear too.
 
I've decided to order a Birdsong while I still have a job. I have been wanting one of these beauties ever since I first read up on them and I figure if I get in a bind I can always sell it, at least that's what I told my wife.
Now that I am going for it I am kind of stuck on which model to get. It's come down to the Cortobass or the Sadhana. They both look great and are supposed to play about the same. Which one should I go for and with what, if any, options? I would really appreciate the opinions of the Birdsong Club on this. Thanks.

Happy New Year!
 
The necks are the same shape on all models except the Hy5, so they will all "play about the same" in that respect - in addition, the Sadhana and Cortobass have the same pickup/electronics configuration. So the difference comes down to body shape -the Sadhana is smaller (one customer got a Sadhana and returned it in exchange for a Cortobass because he found the Sadhana uncomfortably small). Beyond that, the differences are price and appearance.

Good luck!
 
So the difference comes down to body shape -the Sadhana is smaller (one customer got a Sadhana and returned it in exchange for a Cortobass because he found the Sadhana uncomfortably small). Beyond that, the differences are price and appearance.

Good luck!

Thanks. Because of the longer projection, the Sadhana looked a bit larger to me so this is very helpful. I play a semi hollow Rumblekat and I played a Gibson SG at a guitar center and found that instrument a bit too small compared to mine. In fact, I'm pretty sure the Cortobass is smaller than the Rumblekat but I think I can get used to that.
 
The smallness of the Sadhana is in the width - it may in fact be longer than the Cortobass, although for balancing reasons, I suspect they're about the same length in the body.
 
Gotcha - sorry!

I have two Fusion shaped basses - my experience holding other Birdsongs was Ben Bernales' Mesquito (narrower than cortobass, but thicker front-to-back), his all-maple Sadhana piccolo bass, the Hy5 prototype, and "Richard the Test Bass" (an in-house Cortobass that had cavities for every possible pickup configuration for R&D purposes). That was all back in early 2007 and none for more than 5 minutes or so. So I should bow out and let someone who has at least one of each chime in.
 
Yes the Cortobass is quite a bit smaller than the Rumblekat but sounds so much better and you can really feel and see the difference in quality. The Rumblekat does not come close to the Birdsong (of course it costs a lot more too).
I just bought a Dearmond Starfire w/Darkstars to maybe replace my Cortobass (cost less and need some cash) but the Starfire is huge is size and heavier compared to the Cortobass. I'm having a hard time with the size of it and may try to keep the Cortobass and sell the Starfire. The Cortobass is just so comfortable to play. Wish I could keep both.
 
"Yes the Cortobass is quite a bit smaller than the Rumblekat but sounds so much better and you can really feel and see the difference in quality. The Rumblekat does not come close to the Birdsong (of course it costs a lot more too)."

Yeah, I like my Rumblekat. Its easy to play, etc. But, sonically it's a bit one dimensional. I have to really mess with my amp's EQ to change the tone at all. I'll still keep it for when I need a growling fat low end. It does that very well, especially with Alembic Compression wound strings (45-105). I'm completely sold on a Birdsong. Just trying to pick out the right model. Actuallly, acleex38 gave me a good heads up discussing the width. Leaning towards the Cortobass right now. Started out thinking I might want the Sadhana.

I love this forum. So much useful info is exchanged here.
 
If you like the low end of the Rumblekats you will really like the Birdsongs.
I think another difference between the Cortobass and the Sadhana is the body wood. Scott usually uses Mahogany for the Cortobass and Walnut for the Sadhana but I'm sure he will do whichever body wood you want as long as he has it. I think the walnut looks better but don't know if there is a difference in sound or weight. Scott could tell you.
I've never played a Sadhana, I sure love the looks them.
 
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