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Sam,
they are still doing great. The windings on the a string look a little funny at the bridge, but nothing is loose and nothing buzzes. In fact, they keep getting better. The pizz is still super-fundamental strong and sustains more than enough, there is growl but no snarl.
The arco is a huge pleasure, with a powerful brilliant and big tone.
For me, they are keepers. Especially as I have gotten a brand new never used pack of them a payment for an amp I sold, so as soon as I need to change, they're there.
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Sidecar
Ha! No need. I have access to two music school basses with Dominants. I prefer Eudoxa by a considerable margin.
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Sidecar
Sam,
upon closer inspection, the e and a string start to have some windings that at least show a little wear/stretch, the e at the saddle and the a at the bridge. But nothing to worry about as of now, since nothing buzzes. We're slowly approaching the one-year mark (two months to go), which kind of is a minimum benchmark- for their price a bare minimum I must say.
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Sidecar
Your fortunate to make it this long. Didn't have as good of experience, although they sound great !
Lurk,
Yes. A year old in early may. We have seasonal temperature/humidity changes here, but they are rather undramatic compared to u.s. standards. A little drier in the winter, is the biggest factor.
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Sidecar
I also had Eudoxas many years ago. I still think they had a gorgeous sound pizz and arco. But that wrapped gut had serious tuning issues during seasonal changes. Even my bandmates got tired to constant tuning between songs. Plain guts are much more stable here in Finland. I also had some separations in the windings during six months of use.
Without these factors I would still be using Eudoxas.
Without these factors I would still be using Eudoxas.
I'm just wondering, do you use any oil on your Eudoxas...I'm asking as I want mine to last at least a year!
Matt,
I have never used anything else than the occasional dry cloth.
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Sidecar
Gut strings swell when they take oil. In case of wound (specially metal wound) strings, the swollen gut core can break the winding. So it is at least risky to apply oil to wound gut strings.
Don't forget that the oil could not be wiped off the gut core and sits in the (inner) grooves of the winding.
Don't forget that the oil could not be wiped off the gut core and sits in the (inner) grooves of the winding.
"I tuned my afterlengths a little better (precisely or close to two octaves plus a 4th- I would love to get it more precise but that's impossible without modifying my tailpiece)"
Sidecar, how do you tuned the afterlenghts?
Sidecar, how do you tuned the afterlenghts?
Tito,
my tailchord is a stainless steel rope that is crimped together with screw-crimps. I marked the length on the wire, opened them, and shortened the wire until i got close to the desired 2 octaves and a 4th.
I hope this makes sense...
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Sidecar
The problem with afterlength tuning by changing tailpiece wire length is that
A) you won't get the interval the same for all strings and
B) if you change strings (specially if using a different type) you get a different interval since the afterlength has different mass depending where the close metal winding starts (and maybe how much silk is used)
BTW, the last thing might be responsible for the location of wolf tones. So that when you change strings the wolf tone moves. But the contact position of the bridge at the string is too, since that often changes when changing strings (bridge top moves with stretching of strings, different vibrating string length to afterlength relationship, which influences afterlength interval).
To be able to tune every string to the desired interval you need individual movable tailpiece nuts for each string. Use the tailpiece wire for coarse tuning and the individual nuts for fine tuning each string. But these tailpieces could be heavier because of the additional adjustable nuts.
A) you won't get the interval the same for all strings and
B) if you change strings (specially if using a different type) you get a different interval since the afterlength has different mass depending where the close metal winding starts (and maybe how much silk is used)
BTW, the last thing might be responsible for the location of wolf tones. So that when you change strings the wolf tone moves. But the contact position of the bridge at the string is too, since that often changes when changing strings (bridge top moves with stretching of strings, different vibrating string length to afterlength relationship, which influences afterlength interval).
To be able to tune every string to the desired interval you need individual movable tailpiece nuts for each string. Use the tailpiece wire for coarse tuning and the individual nuts for fine tuning each string. But these tailpieces could be heavier because of the additional adjustable nuts.
DoubleMIDI,
All spot-on. But nevertheless what I’m having now is working better than what I had before, and I decided to stop obsessing about it.
Back to the Eudoxas on my bass- still doing great. No real winding separation, Crystal clear arco, great sustain played pizzicato. Loads of thumb and fundamental.
The only thing that worries me is upcoming orchestral jobs and the possibility of not blending in with the others in the section - the Eudoxas being so super clear. I might temporarily switch but I don’t know how Eudoxas handle the off-and-on game. Experience by others in this regard would be very welcomed.
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Sidecar
Well, my Oliv G, very simular to exudoxa i guess, has been with me for about 10years, on and off two basses many, many times, still sounds great and has no issues at all with winding separation.
So i guess if you treat them nice, they should be ok ..
I REALLLLY wouldn’t do that. With olives at least where I am I know a few people that took them off a few times and winding separated. I know evahs can be that way too. More than a few times and evahs separate so I wouldn’t risk it with eudoxas
Good to hear. I guess that it's important to put them on and off with extreme caution not to damage them.
threetone,
That sounds like an amazing track record for a wound gut string! Frankly, the longest any set lasted for me was several years of dominants, I can't recall exactly but I think it was 3.5 years.
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sidecar
