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Boss new wireless WL-50 and WL-20

#163
Boss technical support and shop staff told me that I would need the WL-20L to avoid distortion and other problems. FAQ on the WLs says 'The differences between the WL-20L and the WL-20 are the presence or absence of the CABLE TONE feature in the receiver, and the color of the receiver unit.
* For information on the CABLE TONE feature, refer to the "WL-50: What kind of benefits does CABLE TONE provide?".
If the CABLE TONE feature is not needed, you can use the WL-20L with a guitar equipped with a passive pickup (high-impedance output). In such cases, the sound tends to be somewhat brighter than when using a guitar cable'.

I couldn't tell between cable and WL-20, nor between off, short and long cable tone on the WL-50. The 20 works on my active Ibanez SR300EB, as does the Donner DWS-2, without any problem. The 20L is harder to find in stocks. I bought the 20.
 
#166
Ive recently got a Xvive U2 and find its ok, i like the from factor and the ability to turn them off when not needed.
With the WL-20 you cant do this. Does anyone find it a pain having to leave them on, or have to keep pairing them before each use?
What's the best way to use these in a live environment (set up/sound check/gig etc).
I'm thinking of getting the Boss as i have more confidence in it, and i do have a few drop outs with the Xvive even at home.
 
#167
For what it's worth, I have been using an Xvive, two Bosses and a Cloudwire system at the same time for several gigs now. I'm having trouble with dropouts in the Boss systems and only the Boss systems. That has been a bit of a disappointment. I'm hoping I can figure it out.
 
#168
KevinB656 said:
For what it's worth, I have been using an Xvive, two Bosses and a Cloudwire system at the same time for several gigs now. I'm having trouble with dropouts in the Boss systems and only the Boss systems. That has been a bit of a disappointment. I'm hoping I can figure it out.
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Thats not encouraging as i was hoping the Boss system would be the better option.
 
#169
Dave_bass5, the Bosses switch off when you unplug them. There's a switch on the receiver of the WL-20/L and on the sender that gets pushed in by the nut on the jack socket. The WL-50 receiver switches on and off with its output jack. They all go to standby if left plugged in without getting a signal.

My first wireless, a Donner DWS-2 had no noise problems, but its signal dropped out in two places in PMT when I was trying out basses, even when only a few feet away from the amp and between stands of guitars - too much metal, I guess. The Boss had no dropouts in either of those places. On a salesman's prompting, I walked all over the shop floor, playing through the wireless. The WL stuttered once only, and that was maybe 50 feet or more from the receiver and the wrong side of two displays with lots of metal, some amps and a staircase.

I've had no dropouts with my WL-20 in my rehearsal rooms but haven't gigged it yet.
 
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themickster said:
Dave_bass5, the Bosses switch off when you unplug them. There's a switch on the receiver of the WL-20/L and on the sender that gets pushed in by the nut on the jack socket. The WL-50 receiver switches on and off with its output jack. They all go to standby if left plugged in without getting a signal.

My first wireless, a Donner DWS-2 had no noise problems, but its signal dropped out in two places in PMT when I was trying out basses, even when only a few feet away from the amp and between stands of guitars - too much metal, I guess. The Boss had no dropouts in either of those places. On a salesman's prompting, I walked all over the shop floor, playing through the wireless. The WL stuttered once only, and that was maybe 50 feet or more from the receiver and the wrong side of two displays with lots of metal, some amps and a staircase.

I've had no dropouts with my WL-20 in my rehearsal rooms but haven't gigged it yet.
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Thanks for the info. I have decided to go with the Xvive U2, mainly for the ability to turn it on and off without removing either of the devices, and no need to pair each time.
I know thre battery life is good, but I'd feel safer being able to turn it off between sets etc.

I had a rehearsal with it, and my guitarist also one, and had no issues at all.
 
#171
So ive been happy with my Xvive since getting it, even though at home i get a few drop outs Done a few more rehearsals and never had an issue, but last night at rehearsals i had about 4-5 noticeable drop outs. New bass but same room. Ive now ordered the WL-20 and am hoping its going to be more stable. I know both systems are not good around wifi and other signals, but im hoping the Boss will be a bit more robust.
 
#172
I have two WL-20 systems and the Xvive system. I had high hopes for the WL-20s, but, unfortunately, get so many dropouts that I have mostly stopped using them. Surprisingly, the Xvive has been more stable for me.
 
#175
Ive not had one drop out at home since getting my WL-20 on Friday. Normally my Xvive will flicker ever couple of mins when I'm playing at home. Ive also only had to pair them once since getting them, which I'm really pleased with as its made them truly plug and play.

Got my first rehearsal with them tonight so that will be the real test for me.

Since my post last week about drop outs with my Xvive i have discovered the reason i was getting drop outs at last weeks rehearsal is because they don't fit my new Yamaha bass properly. They dont fit secularly for some reason, so have to be seated so they are just in the right position. A slight knock or bash on the bass and they cut out. I only got the bass the night before so didn't have time to try them out before rehearsals. The WL-20 click in secularly, so in a way i have no choice but to use something else.
 
#176
@dave_bass5: How did it get on your rehearsal?
I'm looking on the WL50 (same as WL-20 (almost) but different receiver form factor) simply because I can let the transmitter charging in the base without worrying about usb chargers. Mostly for home and some party gigs.
Liking the Line6 G10s better, but more expansive.
Liking the Line5 G30 better but might be a pain to switch the transmitter as I also play guitar, often the same night, but the battery door and the clip tends to break.
 
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#177
It went well. Ive had two rehearsals now and no issues other than this.
There is a limitation with the WL-20. I cant beam any tone prints through my bass when using this system. My Xvive works fine so I'm going to get the WL-20L instead.
interestingly a 30ft cable works fine, but the cable tone doesn't, so something not right with the design IMO.

I like the look of the new WL-60 but its too much money for what i need. Have you seen this?
 

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