Boss OC-2 MIJ vs MIT vs OC-3

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by tyohars, Aug 22, 2020.

  1. OC-2 MIJ

    6 vote(s)
    50.0%
  2. OC-2 MIT

    5 vote(s)
    41.7%
  3. OC-3

    1 vote(s)
    8.3%
  1. tyohars

    tyohars

    Nov 11, 2016
    So I have Sub n Up mini and don't like it. I think I'm going for Boss. Which one is better, OC-2 MIJ (black label "octave") for $75, MIT for $52, or OC-3 for 100 new. What's the difference between two OC-2? Can OC-3 on par with the OC-2's?
     
  2. tyohars

    tyohars

    Nov 11, 2016
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  3. Raoul_Duke

    Raoul_Duke

    Jun 13, 2010
    Michigan
    I’ve owned two MiT’s and a MiJ. They were all in really good condition and sounded identical aside from tracking, which was close. For my setup and hands, the MiJ had slightly worse tracking than the MiT’s.
     
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  4. YawningJorin

    YawningJorin

    Feb 14, 2020
    Stockholm
    Some later MITs are made with a different chip that's generally regarded as worse sounding. The earlier ones are identical to the MIJs in terms of components. Unless the seller specifies which version the MIT is, I'd go for the MIJ given the pretty small price difference and guarantee of getting the preferable chip. I'd suggest looking up some shootouts. Dunno if there are any good demos with different OC-2s, but there's OC-2/3 comparisons for sure. Most of my knowledge on these is based on this video which I strongly recommend watching:
     
  5. tyohars

    tyohars

    Nov 11, 2016
    Thanks guys, I'm going to pull the trigger on MIT one.
     
  6. Mosfed

    Mosfed

    Apr 21, 2013
    Washington DC
    Partner - CCP Pedals
    If you can find a MIJ for $75, without a doubt go for that one
     
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  7. WillyW

    WillyW l’art pour l’art, fonction de baise

    Dec 10, 2019
    Buy both the MIJ and MIT and sell the one you don’t like for the price you paid for both.
     
  8. StayLow

    StayLow

    Mar 14, 2008
    Shouldn't be long before there's an OC-5 to add to your comparisons.
     
  9. cosmicevan

    cosmicevan ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


    lol...I was gonna say the same thing. I read the post and figured necro thread from several years ago...nope yesterday. Seems about in line w 2020 so far.
     
  10. tyohars

    tyohars

    Nov 11, 2016
    I already pull the trigger for MIT and it'll arrived today. The MIT one are everywhere in Indonesia for this past weeks, but someone always ahead of me. The MIJ one just pop up few days ago. But after what I heard, I think I'll satisfied with MIT. Why Boss not making OC-2w tho?
     
  11. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    A very good question. The OC-3 isn't horrible but it's not as good as the OC-2. BTW, I've heard comparisons of the MIJ and MIT OC-2's and I can't tell a difference. My OC-2, unbeknownst to me when I bought it in 2008, ended up being one of the transition models that had a Japanese PCB, and while it's excellent, I haven't heard anything out of it that I haven't heard in the Taiwan models. And if a cheapo Chinese company like Valeton can do a credible OC-2 clone, then I don't see why Boss couldn't.

    That said, I went MXR :D The Vintage Bass Octave gives me that sound with better tracking, more available gain, and a nifty little mid switch that I use very subtly but effectively.
     
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  12. tyohars

    tyohars

    Nov 11, 2016
    It's already arrive. After finish my jobs, I'm going home, play with it, and make an NPD thread about it. Thanks guys!
     
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  13. tyohars

    tyohars

    Nov 11, 2016
    TBH, I'm looking for Valeton and MXR too, but MXR one hard tk find here and the Valeton is at the same price with MIT OC-2, so I pull the trigger on the real deal. It's my 3rd octave in a year (not bothered to get one before), I hope the search is over.
     
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  14. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    Well the OC-2 is certainly a classic, and as far as I'm concerned, the one all others are judged by. I predict much happiness.
     
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  15. To my ears; OC-2 sounds better for what it does, but has a significant volume drop on common settings (measured). OC-3 doesn't necessarily drop the volume and has more options, but doesn't do the OC-2 sound as good (analog vs digital). But you probably can't tell in a mix.

    My preference? Octamizer, lately.
     
  16. tyohars

    tyohars

    Nov 11, 2016
    I have a Darkglass Hyper Luminal, and I read that compressor can help with the volume drop and sustain issue. Anyone care to explain how to set the compressor? Or I just use it as I used the compressor before?
     
  17. YawningJorin

    YawningJorin

    Feb 14, 2020
    Stockholm
    You can add some gain with the compressor to make up for volume drop if you experience that as an issue. However to reach unity with your input signal, you'll have to dial the output back when the OC-2 is not in use. Bear in mind that the OC-2 doesn't have the best dynamics regardless, so the synth signal coming out of it will be a bit compressed regardless of compressor pedal. With the OC-2, I'd put the compressor before seeing how

    a) the signal coming out of the OC-2 will be pretty compressed which means you won't gain as much from the compressor. Compressing the dry signal will be easier as the comp isn't dealing with the (low dynamic range) synth signal on top of the dry, so it will respond more nicely and accurately to your playing
    b) the OC-2 doesn't have a lot of headroom, so feeding it a loud signal will cause clipping on the synth signal even with compression afterwards

    Exactly how you wanna set it up is up to you and depends on what you want to get out of it. But I'd wager you'll want to tune it to a bit of peak limiting to avoid the clipping. If the rest that you want is sustain, just go for that. With the Hyper Luminal that should mean turning the blend to mostly wet.
     
  18. Matty Koff

    Matty Koff Inactive

    Aug 21, 2014
    Tennessee
    have had an OC-3 on my board for awhile. I liked it.. but the source audio c4 handles the job pretty equally.
     
  19. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    I honestly never had an issue with the output of the OC2. I always thought it was fine and never got why people complain about it so much. Maybe I'm weird.

    Nobody needs to reply to that last sentence, you wisenheimers!
     
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