Double Bass Bottesini No. 2 OR Koussevitzky Concerto for Technique

[PRUNEFACE]

I am planning on beginning my study of Petracchi's "Simplified Higher Technique" in the next week or so and, while I have learned neither of these pieces, I would like to at this time. Which would be the most practical application of the things I learn from Petracchi's technique? What would be a good "study" for the purpose of mastering the thumb position, at least to a degree?
I have talked to my teacher (Nestor Zayas) and he said either as he has had professors and other teachers argue over which should come first in the order of things, so I have his support either way.

 

[neilG]

I would just pick the one you like the best. Both present challenges that'll keep you busy for a while.

 

[John_Madere]

I vote for Koussevitzky. I learned it before I learned Bottesini and I'm glad I did.

 

[ILIA]

I vote for Koussevitzky. I learned it before I learned Bottesini and I'm glad I did.

Yes

 

[Dogbertday]

I vote the Kous, though like said above both present different challenges. I feel the Kous is a lot easier to chop up and work through than Bottesini, if nothing else I feel that the bowings get turned around less and allow you to concentrate on the left hand more easily.

 

[hbfosho]

Hey pruneface, what's your name? I play with Nestor in Pensacola symphony. Hey to you to John M we have alot of same friend bass players and I'm in Lafayette. I'm sure we'll cross paths eventually and congrats on the new cd. Id say do the kous. first to get comfortable up there in t.p.

 

[fergus currie]

do the 1st and 2nd movement of the K. Nail that and you'll do fine. Save the Bott for when you get up some more chops since it requires a lot more musical phasing.
My first teacher Peter Moore (23 years principal in the BBCSSO) told me (in 1983) that you need only to learn the first and second movement of the Kous. and you will get a job! It's a bit different nowadays but the idea is the same. This piece is almost always on the audition list so it's a good piece to have 'off pat'.

 

[PRUNEFACE]

That's exactly what I was thinking!

do the 1st and 2nd movement of the K. Nail that and you'll do fine. Save the Bott for when you get up some more chops since it requires a lot more musical phasing.
My first teacher Peter Moore (23 years principal in the BBCSSO) told me (in 1983) that you need only to learn the first and second movement of the Kous. and you will get a job! It's a bit different nowadays but the idea is the same. This piece is almost always on the audition list so it's a good piece to have 'off pat'.