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Brian Bromberg Carvin Model Part 2
- Thread starter Bryan R. Tyler
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Does anyone have any recordings of what the piezo bridge pickup does for the tone for these instruments as it's dialed in?
For example, there are several Youtube clips of Brian playing a B24/B25, and in each case the instrument has a piezo bridge. It's not clear whether the instrument in question has the single-coils or humbuckers, but I'm betting single-coils. I'm wondering whether any of the tone in those examples was coming from the piezo, or whether it was rolled off entirely. E.g.:
http://youtu.be/ctDD_0Tmjqg
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I've never had a piezo pickup in a bass before, so I have no clue whether it would be worth the extra money to me (it's an extra option, and it's only available on the P models vs. the S models).
If you have a piezo in a B24/B25, I'd like to know how you use it I guess. Do you keep a little dialed in, or do you only use it under special circumstances?
For example, there are several Youtube clips of Brian playing a B24/B25, and in each case the instrument has a piezo bridge. It's not clear whether the instrument in question has the single-coils or humbuckers, but I'm betting single-coils. I'm wondering whether any of the tone in those examples was coming from the piezo, or whether it was rolled off entirely. E.g.:
http://youtu.be/ctDD_0Tmjqg
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I've never had a piezo pickup in a bass before, so I have no clue whether it would be worth the extra money to me (it's an extra option, and it's only available on the P models vs. the S models).
If you have a piezo in a B24/B25, I'd like to know how you use it I guess. Do you keep a little dialed in, or do you only use it under special circumstances?
Alrighty
First gig w/the B25 Fretless today. Sadowsky Light Gage flats, Zoom B3>Shuttle 6.0>Carvin LS1503 cab.
I played 4 of 8 Classic Rock songs with it and it was everything I hoped it would be. IMHO, a fretless doesn't have to mwah all the time. It can be out of place and distracting at time. I didn't want to it sound like a fretless much on the first 3 songs, so I rolled everything to the neck pickup. With those Sadowsky flats, it was just a great, old school thump. A buddy of mine/fellow bass player was in the separate bar part of the restaurant and he could hear but not see. He didn't know it was a fretless until he walked out there. So mission accomplished there.
The last song called for a pronounced 'mwah', so everything got rolled to the bridge pickup, and I boosted the bass a tiny, tiny bit. Mwah city. It sounded soooo good. Not artificial or processed or any of that, and dead quite with the humbuckers. Needless the say, the playability was awesome.
Never did I have to touch the amp or anything like that. Everything controlled/eq'd from the bass itself. What a keeper this one is. Holy Cow!
Gig pic:
I played 4 of 8 Classic Rock songs with it and it was everything I hoped it would be. IMHO, a fretless doesn't have to mwah all the time. It can be out of place and distracting at time. I didn't want to it sound like a fretless much on the first 3 songs, so I rolled everything to the neck pickup. With those Sadowsky flats, it was just a great, old school thump. A buddy of mine/fellow bass player was in the separate bar part of the restaurant and he could hear but not see. He didn't know it was a fretless until he walked out there. So mission accomplished there.
The last song called for a pronounced 'mwah', so everything got rolled to the bridge pickup, and I boosted the bass a tiny, tiny bit. Mwah city. It sounded soooo good. Not artificial or processed or any of that, and dead quite with the humbuckers. Needless the say, the playability was awesome.
Never did I have to touch the amp or anything like that. Everything controlled/eq'd from the bass itself. What a keeper this one is. Holy Cow!
Gig pic:
Alrighty First gig w/the B25 Fretless today. Sadowsky Light Gage flats, Zoom B3>Shuttle 6.0>Carvin LS1503 cab.
I played 4 of 8 Classic Rock songs with it and it was everything I hoped it would be. IMHO, a fretless doesn't have to mwah all the time. It can be out of place and distracting at time. I didn't want to it sound like a fretless much on the first 3 songs, so I rolled everything to the neck pickup. With those Sadowsky flats, it was just a great, old school thump. A buddy of mine/fellow bass player was in the separate bar part of the restaurant and he could hear but not see. He didn't know it was a fretless until he walked out there. So mission accomplished there.
The last song called for a pronounced 'mwah', so everything got rolled to the bridge pickup, and I boosted the bass a tiny, tiny bit. Mwah city. It sounded soooo good. Not artificial or processed or any of that, and dead quite with the humbuckers. Needless the say, the playability was awesome.
Never did I have to touch the amp or anything like that. Everything controlled/eq'd from the bass itself. What a keeper this one is. Holy Cow!
Gig pic:
Think we'll ever get a few sound clips? The B25 Stealth, your other Bromberg, and the B50 Wilkins A/B/C'd would be pretty cool. You know...if you ever have the time.
Which of these options would you prefer to have if they were offered on the Carvin B24 and B25 basses? In no particular order......
1. Traditional non radiused jazz bass pick-ups like the J99A's instead of the radiused pick-ups?
2. P Bass pick up or non radiused jazz bass pick ups like the J99A's and P bass pick-up combination?
3. Radiused bridge pick-up and P Bass pick-up combination?
4. 24 fret bolt on option with either all of the above or none of the above?
5. Leave the B24 and B25 as it stands now?
This is completely unofficial but it is important to me to see and hear what you guys care about. Thank you for participating!...........B2
1. Traditional non radiused jazz bass pick-ups like the J99A's instead of the radiused pick-ups?
2. P Bass pick up or non radiused jazz bass pick ups like the J99A's and P bass pick-up combination?
3. Radiused bridge pick-up and P Bass pick-up combination?
4. 24 fret bolt on option with either all of the above or none of the above?
5. Leave the B24 and B25 as it stands now?
This is completely unofficial but it is important to me to see and hear what you guys care about. Thank you for participating!...........B2
but I would love to see a 6 string in the future
I love my B24S as_is. But the most common request I've read on TB is a P pickup option and bolt-on neck option. Two conventional J pickups is interesting but I'd still take your radius pickups over them any day.
I've got one, how about white or cream pickup covers?
I've got one, how about white or cream pickup covers?
I'd like to see a 5 string P/Rad-J or P/Rad-H wih a Piezo option. If it could be available on a regular B25S, even better!
I'd have to order at least one right away! Or would it be way too geeky to own 3 of these B25's?
3. I'd like a P pickup option on a NECKTHROUGH with 'bucker in the bridge. The new Carvin X54 doesn't quite do it for me, and I'd prefer a neckthrough, so I'd love a Bromberg with a P pickup.
5. None of the above.
Brian, I honestly like my B25s just the way they are. I love the neck-through. I love the deep cutaway. I love the uniquely fluid lines of the shape. I love the radiused pickups. It's contemporary, yet sophisticated and elegant. In short, it's me!
I don't think there's a thing you could to it, without screwing it up. It doesn't need a bolt-on neck. It doesn't need a "P" pickup or "J" pickups. It doesn't need non-radiused pickups of any kind.
Leave a good thing alone. Don't mess with (near) perfection.
MM
P.S. I gather than the piezoelectric option is freely available. If not, it should be. That would be the only possible improvement. My fretless B25 has a custom GraphTech Ghost system, and it's just great. I wouldn't care to own another fretless electric that doesn't have one.
That new prototype Carvin is neat enough; But I would much rather have a bolt-on 24 fret Bromberg.
Not being a bolt-on is the only thing that has kept me from irrationally spending money on a Bromberg.
*and it's not like the neck-thru is going to disappear or be hurt by the existence of a bolt-on!
Not being a bolt-on is the only thing that has kept me from irrationally spending money on a Bromberg.
*and it's not like the neck-thru is going to disappear or be hurt by the existence of a bolt-on!
5. None of the above.
Brian, I honestly like my B25s just the way they are. I love the neck-through. I love the deep cutaway. I love the uniquely fluid lines of the shape. I love the radiused pickups. It's contemporary, yet sophisticated and elegant. In short, it's me!
I agree that Brian and Carvin have hit a grand slam with the bass as it is. If Carvin made another bass with this neck profile that could configured a bazillion ways, then I would probably be in the 'don't touch it' camp.
For me, though, I find the bass so incredibly comfortable to play that I'd like to have additional tone options available on it besides the killer ones it already has. e.g. I'd love to be able to get a passive P-P/J tone while still having the unreal ergonomics and sweet, sweet B string. I've
IMHO, this is far and away the most comfortable bass to play that they make and from a purely selfish point of view, I'd like some more pickup/preamp options.
But I gotta say, the possiblity a 6 string fretless does whisper to me in sweet, dulcet tones...
^Seriously! I feel like Carvin could make a great six-string out of the Bromberg just by grafting their existing six-string neck into the Bromberg body and electronics. I think everything would fit. All they'd need to re-tool is the headstock.
I'm all for the additional pickup options, those seem like they'd be simple and relatively inexpensive to implement. But I have to wonder - would a bolt-on version of the current bass generate more new orders than a six string version? I guess it's possible. I sometimes forget what a minority we six-string players are.
I'm all for the additional pickup options, those seem like they'd be simple and relatively inexpensive to implement. But I have to wonder - would a bolt-on version of the current bass generate more new orders than a six string version? I guess it's possible. I sometimes forget what a minority we six-string players are.
Is their current 6 string neck still NOT thinner in the treble side than the bass side? That is something I love about my bb75 and yet I recall the 76 not having that feature.
I ask because if the 6 isn't thinner on treble side then that's another BIG feature I'm looking for in a six string....
I ask because if the 6 isn't thinner on treble side then that's another BIG feature I'm looking for in a six string....
