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Double Bass BSX Megathread

As per Zemaitis's post above, he sold his Half Note and I'm the buyer. I trolled on this thread (and the other EUB threads) a ton before making my decision, and I'm sure I'll have some more questions for you guys before I'm through ;-).

I'm making the transition from a fretless semi-acoustic bass so I'm sure I'll have a learning curve to get through as I'm more a multi-instrumentalist than a true bass player. But I like a challenge so I'm excited to get started.

Thanks to y'all for lots of good info on here and I'll let you know how things go when it arrives and I get the neck back on and get it all set up.
 
I’ve just played the BSX Allegro in public for the first time, at a London blues jam. First time I played any upright in public actually. I think I did the right thing holding off on this for 15 months. Not only did nobody remark on the bum notes (there were a few) but I lost count of how many people, friends and strangers, made a point of coming over to tell me how great it sounded.

Feeling pretty chuffed, actually :)

My mild concerns over the sound evaporated (I talked about miking it a few messages back in this thread). Despite taking with me a Pandora PX4B all set up to knock out loads of top-end, I stupidly forgot the extra cable and so had to plug it straight into the PA. It sounded great.

Good result all round I think.

Andy
 
What cases are available for the BSX Allegro. I see some guys are using golf cases.

Burner -

Something happened with my notifications and I didn't see your post from way back when, so sorry for the delay. (And congrats to Big Beat Nut on a successful first outing.)

Almost any hard shell golf case will work, as long as it is big enough. Take your Allegro to the golf shop and try before you buy. You'll have a lot of interested people looking at you - maybe you'll get a gig out of it! :D

I use an SKB Staff Case. The dimensions of the Staff Case have changed since I bought mine, but it should still work. I chose the SKB brand because its one of the best out there. They also have a no-hassle replacement guarantee if your bag is damaged in transit - which I had to use (fortunately no damage to the bass) courtesy of TSA.

When you load the Allegro into the golf case, take the neck off the bass. Put the Allegro into the gig bag, then fold down the neck area. Put the folded gig bag into the golf case. Then put the neck into the golf case.

You will need some way to protect the neck as it travels. You can wrap it in foam every time, which is what I used to do, but that takes forever. I had a custom soft case made for my neck. Makes packing very quick.

Needless to say, you will also need to take the bridge off the base and secure it to the body so the wires for the pickup (permanently inside the bridge for you non-Allegro readers) don't get yanked. Dino recommends wrapping clear plastic wrap (the kind movers use - get it at U-Haul) around the body and the bridge as it lays flat against the bass. I found this tiresome, not to mention environmentally wasteful. I designed a soft pouch for the bridge with long straps, Velcro on the ends, to secure the pouch to the body. Had a friend make it for me. Works great.

One last tip: Find a thick piece of blown Styrofoam and cut it to fit the bottom of your case. This may help protect the bass, but its really there to protect the bottom of the case. I found that the end pin was putting too much pressure on a single point at the bottom of the case, which was deforming the metal rim and making it close poorly. The Styrofoam will spread out the load (much like the bottom of a golf bag that these cases were made to carry). I used packing tape on the entire piece of Styrofoam to keep it from cracking and crumbling. Also gives it more strength due to the "exoskeleton" effect.

I can pack my bass in about 15 minutes. The longest part of this process is securing the strings so they don't come off the pegs using Velcro cable ties from Office Depot. Everything else packs very quickly. The golf case is not oversize luggage, nor is it overweight, so no special charges. Of course you get a second bag charge these days, but that should end when the airlines get back on their feet.

If anyone wants photos of any of this, just ask. Hope this is helpful.
 
I have a question for allegro users out there. Did Dino ever start selling flight cases again? Also, I have an older solid body model of the Allegro that I bought off of ebay a couple of years ago. I was gigging quite frequently with this bass, but the knob that holds the leg in place stripped out and no longer works. Are there tripods out there for Allegro's? If anyone can help me out, I would be grateful.
 
I have a question for allegro users out there. Did Dino ever start selling flight cases again? Also, I have an older solid body model of the Allegro that I bought off of ebay a couple of years ago. I was gigging quite frequently with this bass, but the knob that holds the leg in place stripped out and no longer works. Are there tripods out there for Allegro's? If anyone can help me out, I would be grateful.

I don't know if Dino is selling flight cases again. Why don't you call and ask him? His older flight cases didn't require removing the neck. A convenience, but they were much larger and heavier as a result, which also results in oversize and overweight charges. I also use an SKB golf bag flight case. See my previous post.

As for fixing the stripped out threads at the end pin, Dino might be able to sell you that part. I'm not looking at my Allegro right now (away for Thanksgiving), but as I recall, that whole assembly is easily removed. Dino could just send you a new one and you can install it.

If you want to fix it and don't have the know-how, take it to a good bike shop. Not a junk bike shop - look for a shop that sells Trek and/or also deals in custom bicycles. They will have the tools to re-cut the threads for you. You will likely wind up with a larger diameter screw, which means you will have to look for a screw with an add-on plastic head that you can turn by hand. The bike shop might be able to help you with that too. They might have parts from a Yakima or Thule roof rack, or a quick release seat post, or other similar item, that has a small hand tightened screw with a head that can be turned by hand.

You can also get this done at any standard machine shop, but since these guys mostly work on cars, they might be a little brutish with your instrument, and it will likely cost you more. But if you can find a musician at the machine shop, it might work out fine.

Good luck!
 
Dino told me he has some new cordura gig bags in stock. The hard cases are quite expensive, about $600 or so.... I am going to see if I can get one built by flightcase warehouse in UK, or make one myself --- so that I don't have to take the neck off the Allegro for local gigs. I find that taking the neck off and on, requires some considerable time for the strings to stretch and settle - you are constantly tuning up to pitch and this can be quite bothersome on a quick set up and go to gig.

I suppose if I travel by air, I would take the neck off and use a hard golf case which I have.
 
Hi For a flight case get an skb deluxe golf club case.
I use it to tour ALL the time ant it is only 75 bucks.
funny I just had had my endpin strip too.
I am planning to fix it myself though
J

I checked out the SKB deluxe golf case online. Do you put your BSX in a gig bag before throwing into the hard case? Foam? Just wondering. I will be calling Dino this week. If I can fix my bass, I would like to get a tripod stand for it; he's got them on his site now.
 
Hey guys...

New to the forum and I need some advice!

I'm looking into getting a T-Bass BSX to use for salsa/latin music.

I hear people saying that the T-Bass sounds nasal when playing piezo. I'm looking for that round, latin tone too - is it worth it to buy this bass.

Someone is selling this for $1000 CDN (I guess $920 USD)

What do you guys think?
 
If you read the threads here about the Ampeg Baby Bass (the standard that all other EUB's are judged by for Latin music) you'll find people saying that it is not super easy to get that tone with most EUB's because piezo pickups just don't sound anything like the old Ampeg pickup. I agree with jflo that the Allegro is a better bet, both for sound and for looks that are closer to the Baby Bass, but even then it's not the same animal.

I wouldn't buy the T-bass unless you play it and it sounds right to you in your own hands.
 
Dino told me he has some new cordura gig bags in stock. The hard cases are quite expensive, about $600 or so.... I am going to see if I can get one built by flightcase warehouse in UK, or make one myself --- so that I don't have to take the neck off the Allegro for local gigs. I find that taking the neck off and on, requires some considerable time for the strings to stretch and settle - otherwise you are constantly tuning up to pitch and this can be quite bothersome on a quick set up and go to gig.

I suppose if I travel by air, I would take the neck off and use a hard golf case which I have.

I would agree that taking the neck off is something to be done only when you must - like flying. But am I missing something? Why carry your Allegro to local gigs in a flight case? Isn't the gig bag adequate? Or are you in a big band with lots of roadies who might mistreat your instrument? In which case you are far more famous and successful than I am. :D
 
Ok. On top of it. Might I ask if there was a secret to getting the case for 75 bucks? Everywhere I've looked online has it for 150 at least.

That is correct. The Allegro body goes inside the gig bag, then the gig bag, neck part folded over, goes into the SKB case. Then you put the neck, wrapped in something protective, into the SKB case on top of the gig bag. I got tired of the blanket routine for the neck and had a padded Cordura bag custom made for it. But either way works fine as long as the neck is protected inside the flight case.

jflojazz is giving you good advice.
 
I would agree that taking the neck off is something to be done only when you must - like flying. But am I missing something? Why carry your Allegro to local gigs in a flight case? Isn't the gig bag adequate? Or are you in a big band with lots of roadies who might mistreat your instrument? In which case you are far more famous and successful than I am. :D

Actually I want the bass in a hardcase because I carry the PA speakers and racks, stands, bass gear and my tux etc in the back of my car; and with my current pianist's situation I carry his gear as well, so there 's a lot of heavy stuff and good as cordura is I don't really want to risk damage.

I expect to get a trailer for the PA and rest of it so the gig bag would work in that regard, it can ride in the car without risk of some hard metal case/object impacting on it at force and at an angle to cause damage.
 
To add to this -- I just called Dino yesterday and had a nice chat with him.

As for cases, he said he spoke to some folks out at NAMM about a newer, lighter weight and less costly flight case -- so you might want to give him a call to see how that ends up.

I was speaking to him about the Flip basses and he said they were a really poor seller -- seems not too many people are really interested in a 34" bowable fretless bass on a tripod.

I was very interested to hear he's having a great deal of interest in the Allegro Half Note -- and that he's even making a slightly more compact model with a 38" scale.

In discussing travel & case issues, he said he's been looking in to the SKB style golf cases as an option for the Half Note -- which may not need to be taken apart for travel.

I've got a gig up past his way in late March and am planning another visit to his shop. He said he's starting up a new batch of Allegros & such and that he may very well have a few done for me to try -- very cool.

So -- anybody here currently playing a Half Note solid or acoustic? Thoughts? I really like the look of that Half Note Solid on the V stand...