Bugera Veyron Head

[Das Jugghead]

I just put in my order for my VeyronM and (2) 4 x 10's. now the impatient waiting. reviews have been good and I can't wait. been years since I had a nice rig....

I am interested to hear your review on this rig. I am toying around with the idea of getting a pair of 115 cabs. I find the claimed power ratings to be rather, how shall we say, optimistically based in fantasy. Even so, my head absolutely rocks even though it is nowhere near being in the same solar system as the claimed 2,000 watts. Then again I sent a Hartke 600 back to Sweetwater because there is no way it was even close to 200 watts so for the money the Bugera was a worthwhile venture for me.

 

[bassopotamus102]

I will report back once I receive it. should be Monday!!!!

 

[bassopotamus102]

Update: I received my rig yesterday. there's good news and bad news:

Bad news: Cabs are much heavier than I expected them to be. I can heft them myself, but they are not "lightweight" by any stretch of the imagination.

Good News: this rig sounds amazing. I am still tweaking as I use a mix of active and passive basses, but so far this thing sounds great. I am glad I bought (2) 410s. I ran one 410 by itself and the sound was good. when I plugged the second on in I just about sinned my shorts!!! tight punchy sound. not as bass heavy as my Peavey practice rig (TNT Tour 115 Combo and Tour 115 Cab,) but plenty enough to cut through. I cannot wait to gig with this and put it through its paces! I put it up to half volume and half gain. wow. very loud. I won't ever need more than this.

so far, I love it. I don't care what the actual RMS Wattage is or any of that. it sounds great and is LOUD. exactly what I need!

 

[Das Jugghead]

Update: I received my rig yesterday. there's good news and bad news:

Bad news: Cabs are much heavier than I expected them to be. I can heft them myself, but they are not "lightweight" by any stretch of the imagination.

Good News: this rig sounds amazing. I am still tweaking as I use a mix of active and passive basses, but so far this thing sounds great. I am glad I bought (2) 410s. I ran one 410 by itself and the sound was good. when I plugged the second on in I just about sinned my shorts!!! tight punchy sound. not as bass heavy as my Peavey practice rig (TNT Tour 115 Combo and Tour 115 Cab,) but plenty enough to cut through. I cannot wait to gig with this and put it through its paces! I put it up to half volume and half gain. wow. very loud. I won't ever need more than this.

so far, I love it. I don't care what the actual RMS Wattage is or any of that. it sounds great and is LOUD. exactly what I need!

I remember reading somewhere (perhaps one of the reviews on Sweetwater?) that someone weighed one on a bathroom scale and it came in close to 70 lbs.

Question - do you play five strings or four? If five how's the low B?

I'm heading to Sweetwater to try out a mess of cabs and this is one I am testing among many.

 

[bassopotamus102]

I remember reading somewhere (perhaps one of the reviews on Sweetwater?) that someone weighed one on a bathroom scale and it came in close to 70 lbs.

Question - do you play five strings or four? If five how's the low B?

I'm heading to Sweetwater to try out a mess of cabs and this is one I am testing among many.

Yeah, I think they are all of 70lbs. but they sound great.
I do play 5's and 6's. I will try I tonight and let you know. I don't think the rig will have any trouble with the low b.

 

[Das Jugghead]

Yeah, I think they are all of 70lbs. but they sound great.
I do play 5's and 6's. I will try I tonight and let you know. I don't think the rig will have any trouble with the low b.

I am very interested to read your assessment of the cabs with the fiver. I play in a prog/hard rock band full time and have a side project that plays funk (as much of my version as I can given that I CANNOT dance) groove and jazz.

 

[bassopotamus102]

I am very interested to read your assessment of the cabs with the fiver. I play in a prog/hard rock band full time and have a side project that plays funk (as much of my version as I can given that I CANNOT dance) groove and jazz.

I play in a Hard rock/ hard vintage rock cover band and play primarily finger style. I did try to slap (as best I could....) and as good as the rig sounds with my fingers, it packs even more of a wallop when the bass is slapped! made me all tingly in my giblets. I don't think it'll have any trouble handling the low b at all.

 

[bassopotamus102]

another update. the cabs handle the low B with no trouble at all. the only thing I am a little worried about is clipping on the front end with my active basses. I lowered the pickup in my SBMM SUB RAY4 and that took care of it. I will have to lower the pickup on my SBMM RAY35 as well.

other than the clipping, I am loving the sound of this rig. reminds of an Eden with more edge.

 

[Das Jugghead]

another update. the cabs handle the low B with no trouble at all. the only thing I am a little worried about is clipping on the front end with my active basses. I lowered the pickup in my SBMM SUB RAY4 and that took care of it. I will have to lower the pickup on my SBMM RAY35 as well.

other than the clipping, I am loving the sound of this rig. reminds of an Eden with more edge.

Hey thanks for the update and feedback!

The ability to handle the low B at volume is a critical consideration for me in my cabinet search. Surprised to hear about the clipping.

When are you going to post pics of this rig?

 

[bassopotamus102]

the clipping is not a real problem or issue. in all of the reviews I read, this came up. I am not too worried about it as I won't be playing hard enough to crush the front end. I have been told not to worry about it as long as the light doesn't stay illuminated. and so far, it just "blips" here and there on the lowest notes. I don't hear any issues coming through the speakers on the lowest notes.

I cannot stress enough I LOVE THIS RIG. I can't wait to gig with it! I will take some pics tonight and post tomorrow. it looks as purty as it sounds.

 

[GlassToMouth]

the clipping is not a real problem or issue. in all of the reviews I read, this came up. I am not too worried about it as I won't be playing hard enough to crush the front end. I have been told not to worry about it as long as the light doesn't stay illuminated. and so far, it just "blips" here and there on the lowest notes. I don't hear any issues coming through the speakers on the lowest notes.

I cannot stress enough I LOVE THIS RIG. I can't wait to gig with it! I will take some pics tonight and post tomorrow. it looks as purty as it sounds.

I find my best results to press the input pad and crank the gain knob to about 75%. I don't get the clipping to indicate, no unwanted distortion, and plenty of headroom. I also play fully active EMG equipped basses with a pretty hot output signal.

 

[bassopotamus102]

I find my best results to press the input pad and crank the gain knob to about 75%. I don't get the clipping to indicate, no unwanted distortion, and plenty of headroom. I also play fully active EMG equipped basses with a pretty hot output signal.

cool!!! thanks for the tip. I will try it tonight!!!!

 

[bassopotamus102]

Ok, first things first, here it is:

 

[bassopotamus102]

Second,

I engaged the pad button on my Tech21 Bass Fly Rig and that took care of the clipping problem.

 

[Das Jugghead]

Ok, first things first, here it is:

Looks really shouldn't matter but man that rig looks really sharp!

Second,

I engaged the pad button on my Tech21 Bass Fly Rig and that took care of the clipping problem.

Very good to know.

As I mentioned previously I play in a prog/hard rock band (I am also a finger player as well - no plectrums here) and I play five strings. I don't spend a lot of time hanging out on the B string but when I do utilize the lower notes it is imperative to me that it is absolutely clear and articulate. I was not planning to test the 410 but now I may have to. I was scheduled to go up to Sweetwater to try out a number of cabinets but a wicked sinus infection has postponed that. I guess that is more time to research and pick people's brains.

Please do continue to provide feedback as you gain experience with your rig.

 

[bassopotamus102]

yeah, she's a beauty!!! I would definitely try out the 410. sooo punchy. my practice rig is a Peavey TNT Tour 115 with a Tour 115 cab and this Bugera rig kicks it's butt up one side and down the other. I cannot wait to gig with it. I will report back.

I hope your sinus infection clears up quickly!

 

[Destroyer661]

So I'm very interested in this head. I play in a sludge/death metal band and am currently running a GK Backline 600 through a Mesa Boogie PH1000 which I'm in love with, I just run out of headroom way before I'd like. I've been thinking about either getting a GK 1001 RB II or the MOSFET Bugera. The thing is I love the GK tone and don't know if I should just hold out for a used 1001 RB II or grab this Bugera.. Any opinions and thoughts are greatly appreciated.

 

[agedhorse]

So I'm very interested in this head. I play in a sludge/death metal band and am currently running a GK Backline 600 through a Mesa Boogie PH1000 which I'm in love with, I just run out of headroom way before I'd like. I've been thinking about either getting a GK 1001 RB II or the MOSFET Bugera. The thing is I love the GK tone and don't know if I should just hold out for a used 1001 RB II or grab this Bugera.. Any opinions and thoughts are greatly appreciated.

I think you should do your research regarding the comparison between how the Bugera's power is rated and how the GK 1001RB is rated (using RMS units) . You might be surprised to discover that there's very little difference in the two.

 

[Destroyer661]

I think you should do your research regarding the comparison between how the Bugera's power is rated and how the GK 1001RB is rated (using RMS units) . You might be surprised to discover that there's very little difference in the two.

I kind of figured the power ratings wouldn't be very different, being as I was certain that Bugera's 2000w @ 4ohm rating was liberal to say the least. I guess I was more or less just trying to find out how they compare soundwise? As in would I be able to come anywhere close to the tone of the GK with the Bugera? I'm basically trying to find a way to justify buying the Bugera and stop hunting for an unrealistically low price on the GK head.

 

[Das Jugghead]

I had a Hartke TX600 previous to getting the Bugera Veyron Mosfet version. I sent the Hartke back as I was thoroughly disappointed with it. There is no way in this universe or any other imaginary place that it was 600 watts - just no way. I tried every setting, read several online articles, and just couldn't get any usable volume from it. Might have been 200 watts. It would have been okay for a private practice amp but those can be had for way less money. And this coming from a guy who used Hartke over the years all the time. Occasionally I ran other gear with my Hartkes but I always ran Hartke and loved it except for the weight.

I find Bugera's wattage numbers to be rather over-exaggerated but I can say that they are loud. For a small package and relatively low price I am pleasantly surprised with it. As I mentioned in a previous post the true test will be the test of time as I start gigging with it. While I do not abuse my gear I am curious as to how it does being transported and going through the inevitable bumps and bruises. If I had to guess I would say the Veyron is probably close to 500 watts but I have no way of actually testing and confirming this. Either way it is still much louder than the Hartke TX600.