Bugera Veyron Head

[Das Jugghead]

Still gigging mine with the Mesa/Boogie Subway 112 cabinets. Still getting compliments from the sound man, audience, and other bands. I still love it. Not a single issue. Every gig I have played, with the exception of the last one at Melody Inn, the sound man has used the DI on the Veyron. There was no reasoning with him and I didn't worry about it - just turned up and let it rattle my lungs.

 

[Das Jugghead]

Master volume knob crackling. Also have the occasional pop on start up. Going to try and sort it out.

 

[jeff7bass]

I think you should do your research regarding the comparison between how the Bugera's power is rated and how the GK 1001RB is rated (using RMS units) . You might be surprised to discover that there's very little difference in the two.

That's still a lot of power. The GK is what, 780 watts? More than anybody needs IMO. At least with good cabs.

 

[agedhorse]

That's still a lot of power. The GK is what, 780 watts? More than anybody needs IMO. At least with good cabs.

Possibly, but when comparing the numbers has has been done throughout this thread, the amp with the lower published number (the GK) is almost the same when using the same metrics. GK is rated using "RMS" metrics, the other one is not.

 

[CTBassGuy]

Master volume knob crackling. Also have the occasional pop on start up. Going to try and sort it out.

My Veyron T would do that if the Gain and Volume were turned up high. Every turn of the Master, in this case, would sound scratchy. When I backed off the volume it would stop. Same with the startup pop.

Try turning down the gain and volume and see if the behavior stops.

 

[LYNCHMAN]

I always turn down the volume all the way down on any amp I am turning on or off. Any amp including my veyron...i was taught that as a youngster and have been doing it that way all my life. Reduces the pop...or as I call it, the bump....and reduces that surge on the speaker coils...

 

[twinfallsbass]

I’ve had two “ T’s “, the first one had a scratchy master, my second ( and current ) does not. Even with this issue, these are still a great bang for your buck!

 

[JeezyMcNuggles]

I picked one of these up in a local trade after hearing a wedding band bassist use one recently. His tone and presence were good, I asked what it was and the answer floored me.... "a Bugera".

To be honest, I've had a few pieces of Behringer gear. It's usually functional and sounds decent. But the components and build quality seem flimsy. But I have to sing this thing's praises.... the Veyron M is the most robust, well made inexpensive piece of gear I've owned. It impresses the hell outta me!

Anybody have gig experience with it? Love it? Hate it?

I rocked one for about 2 years. It was a good little amp. Loud, decent features, and tone. I found absolutely nothing wrong with it except that the power amp is noisy. Once you get past about 2 o'clock on the master, it starts hissing. But, you usually won't get up there anyway. Besides that, it's a cool looking, small, strong little amp. And, aside from the knobs, its built like a tank too.

 

[jeff7bass]

I always turn down the volume all the way down on any amp I am turning on or off. Any amp including my veyron...i was taught that as a youngster and have been doing it that way all my life. Reduces the pop...or as I call it, the bump....and reduces that surge on the speaker coils...

Good practice. Me as well.

 

[Das Jugghead]

My Veyron T would do that if the Gain and Volume were turned up high. Every turn of the Master, in this case, would sound scratchy. When I backed off the volume it would stop. Same with the startup pop.

Try turning down the gain and volume and see if the behavior stops.

I will give that a try. I always turn both the master volume and the gain all the way down before powering off.

I always turn down the volume all the way down on any amp I am turning on or off. Any amp including my veyron...i was taught that as a youngster and have been doing it that way all my life. Reduces the pop...or as I call it, the bump....and reduces that surge on the speaker coils...

Yep - I have always done the same.

 

[EmpInfNed]

1) Is Veyron-m fan loud?
2) I'd like to have original Bugera cab foto it but It seems it isn't sell anymore elsewhere. Any suggestion?
3) What is Bugera connection with Beringher?
Thanx

 

[CTBassGuy]

1) Is Veyron-m fan loud?
2) I'd like to have original Bugera cab foto it but It seems it isn't sell anymore elsewhere. Any suggestion?
3) What is Bugera connection with Beringher?
Thanx

1) I had a -T Veyron;the fan was not loud at all, barely audible when not playing
2) I used mine with a pair of Ampeg SVT-210av cabs and it sounded quite good. I also have a modded Ampeg V4 cab with Basslite S2012s in it and the Veyron kicked with that cab.
3) Bugera and Beringher, along with other brands like TC Electronic, are owned by Music Tribe and manufactured in China at a relatively new super factory called Music Tribe City

 

[deff]

I see these around at shows every once in awhile. We played a show that was backlining my V4B and Berg NV412T. Bass player after us wants to use his Veyron head. A few minutes into their set I keep getting text messages, please help the bass player fix his sound. Can you help?, his bass sounds like ...... Of course I am not going to go up and embarrass him by attempting to "fix" his sound. For an amp with that much wattage, it sounded plinky and weak and weird. I'm not going to presume that isn't what he was going for or didn't like himself. I've just never heard anything that I thought sounded decent coming out of them, YMMV.

 

[GlassToMouth]

I've had great luck with my Veyron M for about 5 years worth of gigs. Plenty loud enough into my two Avatar B210 Neos. The "low" switch does a typical bedroom tone by scooping mids and increasing lows and highs. The fan is about average in terms of volume. Not something I've ever thought of as overly audible. My only gripe with the amp is mild as it's the only amp I've ever had to use the -15 dB input pad otherwise my active basses clip the front end even with the gain knob barely turned. With the pad engaged, I can crank the gain without clipping the preamp.

 

[James Haight]

I picked one of these up in a local trade after hearing a wedding band bassist use one recently. His tone and presence were good, I asked what it was and the answer floored me.... "a Bugera".

To be honest, I've had a few pieces of Behringer gear. It's usually functional and sounds decent. But the components and build quality seem flimsy. But I have to sing this thing's praises.... the Veyron M is the most robust, well made inexpensive piece of gear I've owned. It impresses the hell outta me!

Anybody have gig experience with it? Love it? Hate it?

I have had the valve pre-amp version of this amp and love it dearly. I got it to have more of a "classic" valve sound without having a total valve amp. I was delighted when I plugged in and got the immediate impression that this was more of a bottom-end rock sound. I had a 900 watt Darkglass Alpha Omega to compare it with. The Bugera has more headroom and the compressor is quiet. The quality is wonderful i.e., the knobs are solid and smooth like a vintage stereo amp. The seams on the chassis are perfect and the weight is quite light. I recently got an Ashdown CTM 100 and I run two stacks using an A/B pedal and the Bugera sound is huge! I have no problems with this head and would buy it again or buy another. It's driving a Barefaced Super Twin with a Hartke HD112 on top. Still not enough speaker for this head. It can easily drive an 8x10 or two. And yes.... how many watts is it really?

 

[Das Jugghead]

Both of mine are still going strong. Four years of gigging in all conditions and riding in the equipment trailer, played outdoor gigs in 100% humidity and close to 100 degrees, freezing temperatures during transport, packed venues with lots of bodies and open drinks - you name the conditions and I've probably played them. Never a hiccup or issue. These little amps deliver all day long . ... now as far as the "wattage" rating that is up for debate. Someone here bench tested them and found the to be in the 700 watt range which is still more than adequate for anything I was doing but a far cry from the claimed 2,000 watts by the manufacturer.

 

[TommyLuptak]

How do people choose between the M and T?
I have a Hartke HX410 Hydrive 1000w 8ohm and the Hydrive HD112 300w 4/8ohm switchable.
I was thinking the T since these cabinets are very mid forward. I’ve read 100 of threads/reviews and some like the T and others the M. Some sold the T and now like the M. I’d like to hear thoughts on this.

 

[Das Jugghead]

How do people choose between the M and T?
I have a Hartke HX410 Hydrive 1000w 8ohm and the Hydrive HD112 300w 4/8ohm switchable.
I was thinking the T since these cabinets are very mid forward. I’ve read 100 of threads/reviews and some like the T and others the M. Some sold the T and now like the M. I’d like to hear thoughts on this.

I wanted to try out the tube version but time and money dictated that I go with the MOSFET heads. Also given the abuse they were certain to undergo on the road I opted not to go with a tube version. I have two MOSFET heads, one primary and one backup, for redundancy (see what I did there?) but I have never needed the back up head. I run a pedalboard into the return jack of the effects loop and thereby skip the preamp section of the Bugera. In essence it's just a quick and cheap amp for my uses. I do lean toward a rather aggressive mid forward harsh sound in order to be heard without over powering the rest of the band.

I suppose in then end what is right for you can only be decided by you. Do you have the option to play both of them in a head to head comparison? Good luck and let us know what you find is best for you.

 

[TommyLuptak]

I wanted to try out the tube version but time and money dictated that I go with the MOSFET heads. Also given the abuse they were certain to undergo on the road I opted not to go with a tube version. I have two MOSFET heads, one primary and one backup, for redundancy (see what I did there?) but I have never needed the back up head. I run a pedalboard into the return jack of the effects loop and thereby skip the preamp section of the Bugera. In essence it's just a quick and cheap amp for my uses. I do lean toward a rather aggressive mid forward harsh sound in order to be heard without over powering the rest of the band.

I suppose in then end what is right for you can only be decided by you. Do you have the option to play both of them in a head to head comparison? Good luck and let us know what you find is best for you.

Yes, subjective for sure. I’ve done much reading of reviews and the forum here. Some like the T when the 12AX7’s are replaced. From what you’ve said prior about all kinds of conditions, seems like an inexpensive way to go while it handles the abuse well. Others have also mentioned bypassing the preamp so the Fet model is less expensive, so it makes sense to go with M. This rig is at my daughters house that is 2,000 miles from my house, so I thought the T might be nice, then I thought it’s $160 cheaper to get the M and put that towards the Two Notes Revolt bass pre and run as you and others have described. But then I start thinking of a QSC or Crown PA amp and a pre amp. It’s maddening

 

[Das Jugghead]

Yes, subjective for sure. I’ve done much reading of reviews and the forum here. Some like the T when the 12AX7’s are replaced. From what you’ve said prior about all kinds of conditions, seems like an inexpensive way to go while it handles the abuse well. Others have also mentioned bypassing the preamp so the Fet model is less expensive, so it makes sense to go with M. This rig is at my daughters house that is 2,000 miles from my house, so I thought the T might be nice, then I thought it’s $160 cheaper to get the M and put that towards the Two Notes Revolt bass pre and run as you and others have described. But then I start thinking of a QSC or Crown PA amp and a pre amp. It’s maddening

That two Notes is a superbly designed piece of kit. I was actually in a band with Justin Bryant at the time it was just coming out. Still friends with him to this day.