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Double Bass Buying a Double Bass as an Absolute Beginner.

Looking to start learning double bass and want to pick up a decent instrument. I know I could (and probably should) rent first, but I'm old enough to know my obsessions and I can sell an electric bass to help finance this.
All of my reading says to bring someone who knows how to play to check an instrument out. I found what I think is a good deal on a Shen SB200, but have no way of really knowing. Any advice on where to find someone who might be willing to help?
My first thought is an instructor, but I didn't know if it would be odd to have our first lesson be going shopping.

And, in the off chance you know of someone specific around Philly, that would be even better.

Thanks!
 
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I don’t think it’s strange at all to have the first lesson be a shopping trip. As a beginner you’re simply not going to know what to look for in a double bass. I bought my first upright on my own, without the counsel of an experienced player. It was a mistake that not only cost me a lot of money but also slowed down my learning.
 
Sounds like a great bass for a first bass.
I would definitely bring a teacher or experienced player with me to be sure to be sure.
In all likelihood it will be fine, but do get lessons to start you in the right direction.
Shen have a great name and this is a great Shen model.
An experienced player may also recommend set-up adjustments such as different stings and/or string height depending on the type of playing you intend.
Don't delay. If this bass is sound an well priced it will go like a hotcake.
Keep us updated!
 
Buying a bass when you have resources - my advice would be different than to a younger, poorer player. Go to a well-regarded bass shop, I's sure there are some in philly and jersey and NYC. You might pay more than buying randomly from a seller, but you'll get to try out more basses and learn about different styles, and it will be set up well. A few more reasons to buy from a credible shop - 1) once you are further along in your studies, you'll likely need to get the bass adjusted to fit you better 2) DBasses need looking after, you'll probably have to take it in at leaast 1x/yr for minor repairs. Better if the bass originated from them.

FWIW, I have a Shen 190 (Hybrid with carved top and sides, ply back) and its a wonderful instrument for the price range
 
Looking to start learning double bass and want to pick up a decent instrument. I know I could (and probably should) rent first, but I'm old enough to know my obsessions and I can sell an electric bass to help finance this.
All of my reading says to bring someone who knows how to play to check an instrument out. I found what I think is a good deal on a Shen SB200, but have no way of really knowing. Any advice on where to find someone who might be willing to help?
My first thought is an instructor, but I didn't know if it would be odd to have our first lesson be going shopping.

And, in the off chance you know of someone specific around Philly, that would be even better.

Thanks!


Renting is a really good idea. The biggest reason is because it's difficult to turn over a double bass quickly without losing a bunch of money. Even if the bass is sold at a discount, it could take a long time to find a new buyer. Of course the market varies significantly by location. Not a lot of double basses trading hands where I live.


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I have a very positive impression of Shen basses. The SB200 is their lowest level fully carved bass. These come in a variety of body shapes, sizes, and wood types. They also come in round back or flat back. Higher numbers indicate more figured wood.

The SB150, SB180 and SB190 are hybrids, and AFAIK any lower numbers will be laminate. I nice hybrid should be a significant step up from a laminate bass.

Most of the new SB200 I have noticed recently are willow with a spruce top. Supposedly willow is a bit more resilient/less likely to crack than maple. I believe these basses may actually be hybrids as I have been told laminate is used for the ribs. AFAIK willow basses are a bit darker/warmer sounding.

I believe I have seen a few walnut Shen listings recently as well.

Things you can do. Buy from a reputable seller who is interested and qualified in helping you find the right instrument. Bring along a qualified expert who can evaluate the condition and playability of the bass, as well as assess how well it's tone and response will suit your intended goals.

Experienced players tend to have a range of different preferences for how a double bass should sound and play. I used to go to huge trade shows where I could sample hundreds of double basses, and usually I found one or two that really appealed to me. My point is don't be in a hurry, and try to play a bunch of different basses, till you find the one that feels right.

This advice doesn't really work since you don't know how to play double bass yet...another reason why it's not a bad idea to rent until you develop enough mastery of the instrument to make a better informed decision on which bass to buy.
 
Rent. Think of it like dating. You wouldn’t marry the first person who caught your eye, would you?

I get that Shen Willow flatbacks have their fans, but every one I’ve played had a mousy voice, and with willow being fibrous, if it cracks, that’s gonna cost.

I’d recommend renting a Shen 150 and a decent bow and asking around Curtis for a teacher.
 
My Flatback Willow is anything but mousy. In fact, if it has a flaw, it’s possibly a little too strident. I use a mix set of strings specifically with an eye to mellowing it out.

Mine has survived winters, admittedly not harsh in SE Alabama, without a crack or split since 2007. I think the ribs are solid wood, not laminate, but I’m not positive. In my experience, these are very well-made and durable instruments.
 
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You don't even know what you like in a bass.

Why are you opposed to renting?

Double bass isn't like electric bass or guitar, where it's a rational choice to start by buying an inexpensive instrument and "just getting started". You will do a lot better to rent an instrument, with bow, and take lessons from a qualified instructor according to a standard method, then after some time, start trying out a wide range of basses, THEN go buy the first one. There isn't an equivalent in DB to the $300 Squier with a cheap practice amp.
 

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