I have never had any real problems shipping any cabinets, till this particular model of cab. I just sold on here my two Avatar compact 15 cabs. An Eminence KappaPro15LF in each cab. They were a great souinding cab. I'd say Avatars best 15 cab ever. Avatar no longer makes these cabs, or any 15's and I now think I know why. One went to a TBer in Colorado, the other to a TBer in Rhode Island, I'm in Wisconsin. Both were boxed up perfectly, with the cab corner cardboards, that come right from Avatar, or the same from Carvin, lets say. They fit the box like a glove. No flipp, floopy hard to handle box, but a nice firm fit easy to grab and go with box. Both of them got to their destinations, with the magnets slid enough to pinch the voice coils in place, and of course stick the cone in place. Now I know why Avatar quit selling 15's. These companies are just to rough on the package, on their end. That cab would have to be dropped at least two to three feet, or more to slide that magnet out of place. Why do they ask you what's in the box at the get go?? If anyone would look, it may get some better handling. I did shipping and receving as part of my job for over 20 years, so I know how to pack and ship. They just came back to my local drop off site. I'll pick them up in a day or two. Anyone know what my next step should be? I just know they are going to say it was my fault, and I know damn well that it's not. I did have enough insurance on them to cover the deal, but if they charge it back to me, how can I fight city hall here??Anyone gone through this before?? On hind site, had I removed the drivers and shipped them separately, all would be good, but the shipping would have been so high, that no one would have bought them anyway. Anyone have any help for me??