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Cabs Are Key!

Yeah, like I said, clearly you're just playing different types of gigs. It definitely makes sense for you to have a bigger rig. Not worth it for me except for the fun of playing through it.

It'd be nice to get FOH support. There are some UK village halls with impressive PA rigs (2kW, subs, the lot, even monitors) and music venues with nothing but a stage so small that you can't put a big amp there anyway as it's either your amp on the stage or you. For those occasions, small cab, lots of power is indicated. Or.... you stick a big cab on the dance postage stamp (hard to call it a floor in some of the venues, but it's the bit not covered in sticky carpet) off to one side and you have a smaller amp you put on top of that pointing back at you so you can hear yourself because the monitors that the person with monitors has brought have barely any more bass than a Walkman.

If you do have your amp on the dance 'area' then having a nice cab is not the best plan as someone will spill beer in it (keep the electrical bits on stage), throw up on it, or gouge it with their keys. Make sure the amp piggybacked on top is attached with stout cords to the big amp to make sure it doesn't get knocked off.

One way to avoid the risk of beer damage from dancing people is to play prog and stick to 11/8 or similar time signatures as no one will dance to it. Also, no one will come at all.
 
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Yeah, and if you have not tried them yet, tap into the elf 2x8. Warning, your wallet will get thinner. Don’t get me wrong, I think that the 110 box is good but, it will reach its limits much sooner.
LOL! -Am toying with the idea of getting a 2'nd Elf 110 to provide good sound support under the first...;) -I don't really need it, but it could be fun, right? :laugh:
 
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I worked in that industry 45 years ago, was a factory service guy for both Marantz and Pioneer (never worked on JVC nor had anything to do with those products). It might surprise you to know how advanced the power amp circuitry was in many of those products, and how well engineered they were. These basic topologies have been used all the way through until the end of class AB amps without much change (other than robustness for the intended use). It was relatively mature technology by the mid 1980's.
With all the respect I have for your experience, I still don't agree that Marantz/Pionner/JVC are the top of the top receivers on that planet. I auditioned some of them when I bought my last receiver in the 90's and my humble Acoustic Research was doing way better. But I as I said, that's for another thread
 
According to the other post of 50% for electronic components and 50% for speakers, than leaves 0% for connecting those things together to make any noise...

How about something in the middle... 48% for the speakers, 48% for the amp, and 4% for cables?

With all the respect I have for your experience, I still don't agree that Marantz/Pionner/JVC are the top of the top receivers on that planet. I auditioned some of them when I bought my last receiver in the 90's and my humble Acoustic Research was doing way better. But I as I said, that's for another thread
My experience is with those products pre 1990, but that's a part of my life I stopped caring about before my first child was born.