I thought about it for a second, and a way for this state to get some easy money, is to let all the little fish go, catch them again, and let them go out on bail. Less tax dollars wasted, and more money collected, you can't go wrong. Fail proof. End of problem.
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California to cut prison population
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Youre a thinker, and a menace to society. Youre a danger to yourself and those around you. Have fun.
Currently only 18.9% of California inmates are listed as being "in" for Drug crimes. So, where are they going to release the other 21.1%? Probably "property crime" so we can look forward to more burglary, theft, motor vehicle theft, arson, shoplifting and vandalism.
Huzzah California!
Huzzah California!
Or naturalize all the immigrants as citizens and you will never have a west coast state vote red again. Then much more liberal policy could be passed easily...
They're like a plague in CA. I'd rather that they not enjoy the full benefits of being citizens.
I would however, support a consumption tax.
trouble is when the cops spend all the resources they have busting druggies they have none left to deal with the property crimes.........this makes sense if the ultimate goal is to use those savings to go after criminals who steal,assault,rape etc......id bet that legal pot alone would free up enough cops to cut street crime way down......by the by ,can we borrow your second amendment for a whileCurrently only 18.9% of California inmates are listed as being "in" for Drug crimes. So, where are they going to release the other 21.1%? Probably "property crime" so we can look forward to more burglary, theft, motor vehicle theft, arson, shoplifting and vandalism.
Huzzah California!
FWIW Most cops won't even bother you about pot. Its not worth the paper work. I've been searched before and they've just thrown it out.
EDIT: Also, FWIW, as an avid smoker of all things green, I'm against the legalization of marijuana.
EDIT: Also, FWIW, as an avid smoker of all things green, I'm against the legalization of marijuana.
thats interesting.......but a lot of jurisdictions do.....and id rather deal with some stoned out hippydip than a paroled felon who needs a little ready cash
I've thought for a long time that the best way to improve the penal system would be to do away with the criminal/societal culture on the "inside" by making all jail sentences solitary confinement. Most people are afraid of being alone, and extended periods of solitary time with no social interaction might make people think twice about doing something that would put them back on the inside. Let them read, give them food and water, but don't let them do the kind of "criminal bonding" that always goes on in prisons.
While I agree that it's a logistical nightmare, the sentences could be a lot shorter and (I believe) a lot more effective than what we currently have. And I bet a system like this would do a lot more towards 'rehabilitation" than hanging out with a bunch of hardened bullies on the state's dime. Maybe I'm crazy and/or cruel, but...
While I agree that it's a logistical nightmare, the sentences could be a lot shorter and (I believe) a lot more effective than what we currently have. And I bet a system like this would do a lot more towards 'rehabilitation" than hanging out with a bunch of hardened bullies on the state's dime. Maybe I'm crazy and/or cruel, but...
I can't say I've ever had that be a problem. I've lived on each coast and its happened several times. I got pulled over by a State Trooper last week in my friends car, she found a piece, and instead of writing us up for drug paraphenalia she just smashed it on the ground and wrote him a speeding ticket.
The only time people get busted for it is when they're an *******.
thats what alcatraz and other early 20 th century prisons did,but the cons always found a way......research has shown that the severity of punishment is less a deterrent than the certainty of being caught......
street punks today know that in the unlikely event you are caught there is a good chance you will not be prosecuted or there will be a plea deal...if you are tried you may or may not be convicted,and even if convicted the lawyer might be able to convince the judge to be lenient.....even then you probably get out early on parole.....
before drugs became the bugaboo that they are now the streets were a lot safer......perhaps mandatory stiff terms for illegal guns/gun crime would be the way to go......
That was the idea behind even the first prison (Eastern State, which looks like a castle is in downtown phily and has an audio tour with Steve Buschemi BTW). However in Phily and elsewhere that ideal degrades as the prisons become more and more crowded, in one of LA's prisons they use gymnasiums as cell blocks they are so overcrowded (Thanks Nat Geo). Also the need to turn a profit on their prisoners labor becomes more difficult when prisoners are confined, as does exercise (at eastern state they had individual exercise pens attached to cells and when they added second floors to the cell blocks those prisoners never saw the sun).
Many people don't know that many of today's prisons are contracted out and run by private companies and that incarceration is a business (and a booming one at that). Go figure that accountability and conditions suck, prisoners are slave laborers forgotten by society.
Also many prisoners are non-violent, yet locked away for a long time turning a profit for the prison industry (yes I said industry) because of mandatory minimum sentences, which force judges to give non-violent drug offenders longer sentences than some rapists and murderers.
Crack carries a higher sentence than cocaine, which had nothing to do with their compositions (crack is coke mixed with baking soda) and everything to do with the color of the people doing them.
...Sure I sound like a liberal hippy DB, but I didn't just make this stuff up and I find it rather scary.
That's actually a good idea. Most people (like me) can't stand not having any interaction with another person for extended periods of time.
IMO, that's a very interesting idea! If somebody could make this into an organized thesis and maybe research it a bit, I think it'd be very viable!
From what I've read, in the cities and states where these types of policies have been implemented, violent (gun related) crime has decreased significantly. One situation I read about basically worked like this: Rob a convenience store, get the typical sentence. Rob a convenience store and use a gun to get the cashier to comply, get the typical sentence plus 10 years.
in relation to the OP news article:
I think this is a good idea. For the reasons stated in previous posts, I think that most of the prisoners released won't cause trouble. After seeing NatGeo & MSNBC prison documentaries, I'm appalled by the insane overcrowding of the CA prison system.
housing these prisoners is also heinously expensive, and this state is totally bankrupt. We need to slash all the spending that we can get away with.
I think this is a good idea. For the reasons stated in previous posts, I think that most of the prisoners released won't cause trouble. After seeing NatGeo & MSNBC prison documentaries, I'm appalled by the insane overcrowding of the CA prison system.
housing these prisoners is also heinously expensive, and this state is totally bankrupt. We need to slash all the spending that we can get away with.
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