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Calling all the filter freaks...

CliffD

CliffD

Jan 27, 2008
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#1
So I recently got a Barge Grinder and LOVE it, it takes some work but the work pays off. So I'd like another filter under my feet but I want something VERY different than my meatball inspired grinder, here's what I'm thinking of:

-Chunk OS
-Subdecay Prometheus
-WMD Fatman

Help a brother out!
 
#3
CliffD said:
So I recently got a Barge Grinder and LOVE it, it takes some work but the work pays off. So I'd like another filter under my feet but I want something VERY different than my meatball inspired grinder, here's what I'm thinking of:

-Chunk OS
-Subdecay Prometheus
-WMD Fatman

Help a brother out!
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Just my thoughts:

I wouldn't buy the Chunk OS unless you really wanted all the other features. If you were buying it as another filter, I'd just get the 00Funk. Even still, I don't think those two filters are all that different sounding. Both are pretty tweakable and wet, but not "organic" sounding - at least to my ear.

The Prometheus is a lot of fun when using the stepped filter mode, but personally I didn't care for the actual sound of the filter. But try one, you may have a different view. It is somewhat different from the Grinder tone. Like the Meatball/Grinder etc it also takes a lot of knob twiddling.

I also didn't like the WMD Fatman. Just didn't really care for it. It sounds awesome for the electronic sounds that John Davis uses it for, but outside of that it just sort of fell flat for me. But again, very tweakable and different strokes for different folks.

Some filters that I would consider different enough from the Grinder to make it worth it to have both would be:

MXR Bass Auto Q, Pigtronix EP-1, DOD FX25, Original Mu-Tron, Jacques Trinity and a few others that I can't recall at the moment. Maybe the new Robotalk 2 as well. I'll let you know when it shows up.
 
#4
I dunno, I just love the sounds that come out of my grinder and want more variety than just my grinder, that help at all? My only filter experience is from my grinder and a moog bass murf if that helps.
 
#5
well......i'm gonna vote for the line6 fm4 for overall versatility and diversity of different sounds......and if you want something outrageous/amazing for other things besides bass........frostwave funk-a-dunk....which i still have not done a review for yet :scowl:
 
#6
TheBigO said:
Just my thoughts:

I wouldn't buy the Chunk OS unless you really wanted all the other features. If you were buying it as another filter, I'd just get the 00Funk. Even still, I don't think those two filters are all that different sounding. Both are pretty tweakable and wet, but not "organic" sounding - at least to my ear.

The Prometheus is a lot of fun when using the stepped filter mode, but personally I didn't care for the actual sound of the filter. But try one, you may have a different view. It is somewhat different from the Grinder tone. Like the Meatball/Grinder etc it also takes a lot of knob twiddling.

I also didn't like the WMD Fatman. Just didn't really care for it. It sounds awesome for the electronic sounds that John Davis uses it for, but outside of that it just sort of fell flat for me. But again, very tweakable and different strokes for different folks.

Some filters that I would consider different enough from the Grinder to make it worth it to have both would be:

MXR Bass Auto Q, Pigtronix EP-1, DOD FX25, Original Mu-Tron, Jacques Trinity and a few others that I can't recall at the moment. Maybe the new Robotalk 2 as well. I'll let you know when it shows up.
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Yeah I mentioned the Chunk OS 'cause I do know it has a killer filter in it, along with all of the other features, suppose it's a synth though. Thanks for the input!
 
#7
EBS Bassiq. Fewer knobs, more utility, wet and thick as a big bad mucus. Compact and available used at affordable prices. I realize it's "only" a lowpass filter but with three modes and a really wide attack range (plus a dry blend trimpot inside) I think it gets as many cool sounds as several other, often more expensive and much larger filters - it is easier to use, too.

Why are there not more envelope filters designed and voiced specifically for bass? It is a cryin' shame. I've had enough of oversized envelope filters with limited utility for bass and a whole bunch of useless ones (note to experimentalists: please don't tell me to be "more creative").
 
#9
RCCollins said:
EBS Bassiq. Fewer knobs, more utility, wet and thick as a big bad mucus. Compact and available used at affordable prices. I realize it's "only" a lowpass filter but with three modes and a really wide attack range (plus a dry blend trimpot inside) I think it gets as many cool sounds as several other, often more expensive and much larger filters - it is easier to use, too.

Why are there not more envelope filters designed and voiced specifically for bass?
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I've often wondered that too. Honestly, if I were to make a list of the effects that I really consider "bass effects", meaning that in general you see more bass players using them than guitarists, I'd say octaver and envelope filter would be at the top, if not the complete list.

Bass IQ, 00Funk, 442 Red, what others am I missing?
 
#10
For something simpler and much different than the Metaball/Grinder, you might want to try a DOD440-based filter like the BYOC filter or the Tonefactor 442 Red/Boomstick Bottomfeeder or whatever other clones there are. I like that sound for something that's totally not synthy and slightly subtle, but not boring.
 
#11
TheBigO said:
I've often wondered that too. Honestly, if I were to make a list of the effects that I really consider "bass effects", meaning that in general you see more bass players using them than guitarists, I'd say octaver and envelope filter would be at the top, if not the complete list.

Bass IQ, 00Funk, 442 Red, what others am I missing?
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if you count the EP-1, shouldn't you include the polyphase as well?
 
#12
TheBigO said:
I've often wondered that too. Honestly, if I were to make a list of the effects that I really consider "bass effects", meaning that in general you see more bass players using them than guitarists, I'd say octaver and envelope filter would be at the top, if not the complete list.

Bass IQ, 00Funk, 442 Red, what others am I missing?
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Ashdown's filter is bass-specific. I don't like it though. On bass, I dont' like it. In a floop it's a reason to get up in the morning, though.
 
#13
RCCollins said:
EBS Bassiq. Fewer knobs, more utility, wet and thick as a big bad mucus. Compact and available used at affordable prices. I realize it's "only" a lowpass filter but with three modes and a really wide attack range (plus a dry blend trimpot inside) I think it gets as many cool sounds as several other, often more expensive and much larger filters - it is easier to use, too.

Why are there not more envelope filters designed and voiced specifically for bass? It is a cryin' shame. I've had enough of oversized envelope filters with limited utility for bass and a whole bunch of useless ones (note to experimentalists: please don't tell me to be "more creative").
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Oh yeah, forgot the bassiq, will check it out.
 

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