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Campfire setup. . . ?

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Just want to point out that some of the Bluetooth speakers even have latency on their aux inputs. I tried using my Vox Amplug as a pre-amp with the headphone out going to this - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073BVWRSP (Oontz Angle 3 Ultra) and there was considerable latency. I bought the Joyo mentioned above, but am on the fence about it. I'm able to get the gain to about halfway with the volume cranked before it starts distorting on me. Doesn't sound like an overdriven speaker farting, sounds more like the amp clipping out. And even cranked, I'm not sure if could keep with an acoustic. Maybe I got a lemon. When researching portable setups, I ran across a thread where someone recommended the ION portable PA's, like this one - https://www.amazon.com/ION-Audio-Block-Rocker-Plus/dp/B07C32XSH1. It has bluetooth as well so you could stream a backing track to it.
 
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el murdoque said:
Okay, I'll keep that in mind, thank you!
I have devised a workaround with what I have at home:
bass -> Sansamp pedal (xlr out) -> XLR to 1/4" TRS -> 1/4" TRS to 1/8" TRS -> speaker
It won't be pretty but it'll do for testing the results.
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Isn't that going to cause issues as both legs of the XLR (and thus each side of the stereo image) will be out of phase with each other?

It wasn't cheap, but a friend of mine who works in a local guitar store insisted I try bass through the Bose S1 and, at reasonable store volumes it was surprisingly good, although there's definitely a lot of processing going on internally.
 
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I'm thinking you'd just HAVE to have some sort of active stage, if for no other reason than to isolate the instrument from the relatively low input impedance of the radio's aux in. Plus, I'd think you'd probably need at least 10dB of gain. A pedal or preamp could do that, but as been pointed out, it stops being simple.

It seems unlikely that you'd be able to use the Bluetooth input and the Aux In at the same time on a typical jobsite radio, but I don't actually know. But I do like the idea of a jobsite radio for the basic campfire situation, especially given that a lot of us already have a significant investment in batteries and chargers.
 
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Redbrangus said:
I'm thinking you'd just HAVE to have some sort of active stage, if for no other reason than to isolate the instrument from the relatively low input impedance of the radio's aux in. Plus, I'd think you'd probably need at least 10dB of gain. A pedal or preamp could do that, but as been pointed out, it stops being simple.

It seems unlikely that you'd be able to use the Bluetooth input and the Aux In at the same time on a typical jobsite radio, but I don't actually know. But I do like the idea of a jobsite radio for the basic campfire situation, especially given that a lot of us already have a significant investment in batteries and chargers.
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Back when I was a kid I cut up some wires so I could connect my Ric 4001 to the RCA inputs of my 10W home stereo. It sounded great and had plenty of gain, but it was not particularly loud because the sensitivity rating of the speakers was 88dB 1W/1m. I suspect this will be a similar situation. I doubt it's going to hurt anything to try, as long as the OP respects the SPL limits of the speakers.
 
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Bleecker said:
Just saw and read a lot of this thread.

I don't think anyone has mentioned a resonator bass yet...? I have never tried one but I believe they have the volume to keep up with acoustic guitars. Any opinions?

DEAN Resonator Bass 4-string acoustic electric BASS guitar NEW Classic Black
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Haven't played that Dean, but have played this EAB
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. For a cheap bass, it's big ol' body can keep up with a couple acoustic guitars easily in unplugged mode. It's not the smallest and most portable option, but requires no amp at all.
 
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...meanwhile, I've completed my first draft of a setup.
I scored a Kala Journeyman in red and added a JBL XtremeII speaker.
The connection is made by a cable with a 1/8" TRS jack on one end and a 1/4" mono jack on the other. I could only find one cable online matching those specs, but it looked super cheap and cost 17 bucks, so I ordered Neutrik jacks and microphone cable and made one myself.



So to those who are (still)interested in the topic: This might actually work. I get some volume out of this setup.
My gut tells me that when a guitarist with a good acoustic really digs in and sings loudly, he'll drown me out.
There is latency, however. When I fired it up for the first time, I had a latency of about half a second and my hopes were crushed. I tried to find some documentation on all that, but when I fired the whole thing up for the second time, it was much better.
The latency is still there and I can still feel it, but the people in the room were not able to tell the difference. I think in playing with a guitar, this will have next to no effect.
 
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