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Can anyone comment on instruments made in Indonesia?

haven't read the whole thread..
..my Sterling SUB 4 is MII and I'd buy another one in a second...I'd say fit and finish is great, and while I know it is not a real EB Stingray, but with Fender flats (now) or D'addario 1/2 wounds I have had on it, it sounds fantastic, looks cool and for the $$$ IMHO it is a 10/10
 
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My impression has always been there is one single gigantic factory in Indonesia that produces all or nearly most guitars and basses which sport the "Made in Indonesia" moniker.
True or False?

Another impression is that a dozen companies or more have some series made there. I see it also as a place/factory where entirely new brand names are setup for a few runs, then rarely seen again. Presumably with some bigger corporation behind the 'project'.
Anyone know for sure?

For me the "Made in Indonesia" stamp on an instrument foretells of the world's possibly lowest quality. This is a generalization, and I'm sure is not universally applicable to every single thing made there, yet IMO, there is some truth to it. Even surpassing China as a kind of "be careful of what you are getting" type of warning.

Just in case anyone might be thinking that I'm personally ragging on Indonesia or its populous, don't.

"Can anyone comment on instruments made in Indonesia?"

I'm pretty sure we can...
 
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I love these threads. Like watching a Larry the Cable Guy show.

All of my budget Asian basses are very nice overall. They all have drawbacks too, mostly in the hardware area. Fit and finish are excellent. But the money I paid for them makes them real bargains.

There is zero reason that any of these Asian factories couldn't put out instruments as good as an American made instrument. If they were contracted to and the same materials, methods and QC processes were applied by the label as they do in America, the end result would be the same.

There's a reason USA built toyotas are still better QC and have tougher parts than a Ford, etc. Corporate priorities.
 
no, because last time i did it started this whole how can you say that the one bass you had from indonesia had softer frets than your american, japanese, and mexican basses?
i wrote that, because that was the case with my one bass and that was my only reference point on that manufacturer's indonesian basses. so no, not gonna rehash.
 
I have two Squier VM's, a P-bass, and a J-bass, both from Indonesia, and the quality is excellent. The P-bass is probably my most favorite bass to play over any other bass I've ever owned even an MIA jazz made in '08 ( a terrific bass in it's own right) I had untli a few months ago when it got stolen.
 
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I think Indonesian made instruments are fairly consistent in quality. They keep improving with time, as well.

I'm curious if there is a difference between a Samick made Squier and a Cort one, though. I have a Cort made one, and aside from the pots, it's a killer instrument.
 
Wow, so are most of the Skyline Laklands made there? If so, I have to wonder if it is a different facility from my possibly real or conjured "Giant Factory" impression.

All of the skylines are made there....and I can also attest to the excellent quality... Owning a 5564 made there.

I do know that there is one company that makes quite a few brands BUT there is a varying quality control procedures for varying lines so there " can be" varying final quality.
 
i have 1 Ibanez made in Indonesia. It was in the midrange (1000 bucks ), and it is the best bass i have played that cost less than 3k.

Same here - I have an Ibanez GVB-36 that was made in Indonesia. I think they sell around $1200. I absolutely love it. No quality issues, the fretboard plays so smoothly from the body to the headstock, and it sounds excellent. The irony of this is there are no signs of hasty/rushed manufacturing, lack of QC, or other quality-related issues, while many U.S.-made Fenders exhibit these issues.
I know many Korean-made bass owners that are very happy with their instruments, too. I think it comes down to the level of supervision by the OEM. Some do it well, and others don't do it at all.
 
My Squire VM fretless is pretty good for the price. I'm just not really happy with the bridge or pickups, but that's a mod I knew I'd have to make before purchasing. In the mean time, it gets the job done!
 
My impression has always been there is one single gigantic factory in Indonesia that produces all or nearly most guitars and basses which sport the "Made in Indonesia" moniker.
True or False?

For me the "Made in Indonesia" stamp on an instrument foretells of the world's possibly lowest quality. This is a generalization, and I'm sure is not universally applicable to every single thing made there, yet IMO, there is some truth to it. Even surpassing China as a kind of "be careful of what you are getting" type of warning.

Just in case anyone might be thinking that I'm personally ragging on Indonesia or its populous, don't.

Why must such a question be true or false? Is this a black and white world? The maze and labyrinths which companies, factories are owned by one or two stock owners or by one or two large conglomerates are virtually impossible for anyone of us to sort out. Joint-stock companies are "owned" by stock owners that own quite a few different plants, or sites though. So while they're made at different plants, they're made by one large "owner". We can't possible tell that. It's just the way it was in Japan in the 70s. The Greco, Fernandez, Vester, Kasuga, Pearl bla bla (is there anyone who can list all the copycats real names of counterfeit or copied basses/guitars?) was owned by one big company, Matsushita* or whatever. We can't possibly tell. They all were made in one plant at first, but when demand were too high, and sales skyrocketed, they couldn't keep it at one plant, and started another plant in another city. Just put different stickers and brand names on to them. Subsidiaries, daughter company, holding companies, you name it. We can't possible track of what is what or which ones ownes what.

As it is, when handling lumber/timber and such things you can only have such a big factory in one place. It reaches maximum size. Due to logistics and all the organisation you can't just build a super large factory to produce 40.000 guitars or basses an hour at one place. It's too much of a risk! Wood is flammable. It makes a hell of a bonfire. If a bomb or fire, or natural disaster such as a, hurricane, tsunami , earthquake should take down the factory - which can very well happen in that area and has even frequently done so, as we all know - then all of the world would be out of products for a year or two then.

You always spread the risks, by opening another plant, far from the other one, and carry on building the same brands and basses there. Or anything other that would happen to that factory. Electricty failure or something like that. Anything that causes a production halt. If I would be the CEO I would definitely not put all my eggs in one basket, but spread them out, because - simply - that is a better and much profitable business conduct. If I didn't I would be out of my job at the drop of a hat.

One single gigantic factory produces all or most basses ? = Definitely false!
One single gigantic (holding) company owning different plants, companies, subsidiaries, spread out across the country, (factories) producing all or most guitars and basses ? = Probably. Neither true nor false, because we can't tell. And won't ever be able to.
Different plants owned by each of the larger brands, like Yamaha, Ibanez? = Probably true.

... was still wondering about the existence (or not) of the Mega-Plant I currently suggests exists....


*can't believe that talkbass changed out company name Matsus*h*i*t*a to poopia. C'mon guys. A word or name in another language is like that, whether you'll like it or not!
 
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Same here - I have an Ibanez GVB-36 that was made in Indonesia. I think they sell around $1200. I absolutely love it. No quality issues, the fretboard plays so smoothly from the body to the headstock, and it sounds excellent. The irony of this is there are no signs of hasty/rushed manufacturing, lack of QC, or other quality-related issues, while many U.S.-made Fenders exhibit these issues.
I know many Korean-made bass owners that are very happy with their instruments, too. I think it comes down to the level of supervision by the OEM. Some do it well, and others don't do it at all.
Yeah Ibanez midranged instruments, are by far the best in terms of quality in that pricerange. Even the electronics were well cabled and it was very tidy inside. I dont think Ibanez is miles better than the competition in terms of tone, but they certainly are in terms of quality control.
 
ESP LTD B-1005SE Multi-Scale - Rosewood Natural Satin

This LTD Fanned Fret bass at 1.399 USD, they are made in Indonesia. Nordstrands pickups. I have th 4 string variant. LTD is even considered at the cheaper end of the scale. Still Made in Indonesia. The work is smashing and bears no resemblance of a shoddy workmanship at all. It beats the corresponding Dingwall Combustions which are made in China. I know, I got one. I've tried the 5er too. Solid work. I won't tell you what I had to pay in Sweden, when all tax, shipping, customs and whatnot are paid, but more in the realm of around 2.000 USD. Not exactly cheap.

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Have an Indonesian Squire which is very good indeed,nice fits and finish etc .....BUT, I have just picked up a dirt cheap 'Made in China' Squire which has made me re-think everything I know about American made guitars.
I'm gonna do a seperate thread on this, stay tuned.
 
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My Tbird and Hillsboro are from China and my Jackson is from India. Have not had issue with any and I know that a 1500$ US made bass has better quality parts and craftmenship. Still, for the price, mine are very good. I have played Squiers that sounded as good as MIMs and others not very good. Think the vintage line has good value for the buck. If I was a professional musician, I would invest in US made, but not for a hobby or local cover band
 
I've got no Indonesian basses, but I will recount the story from maybe 10 years ago, when I was living in France, and ordered two guitars, at roughly the same time: a made-in-Canada Godin LGXT for me and a made-in-Indonesia Yamaha Pacifica 012 for my daughter as a starter electric. When the Godin came in, I tried to correct the intonation and discovered that it was not even possible - the mounting of the bridge was such that the saddle tuning ran out of excursion before it could be set correctly for the standard set of .010 strings. I sent it back, and it was replaced with another. The Indonesian Yamaha, which cost less than 1/5 the price of the Godin, was set up and intoned *perfectly* right out of the box, and a much better instrument than a lot of Gibson and Fender electric guitars I've played. It doesn't take years of apprenticeship under a master luthier to make a really good instrument with numerically controlled machine tools.
 
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