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Can buying advice

Hi all, hope you’re keeping well.

im in the market for a cab and was looking for some sage advice.
I’m newish to bass, drumming and gigging 20 years and want to get out gigging on bass now.

I trust my ears more than anything else when buying gear but where I am there aren’t many cabs to try out.

in terms of buying a cab, what specs do people consider to be important?

I was thinking of a 2 x 10 but looking for info to help make the decision

cheers
 
Let's try to narrow it down some. What kind of music? What sized venues? How loud? Loud drummer? Egomaniacal guitarist? Do you already have an amp? If so, what... or at least, how much power? Having more info will lead to more useful suggestions.

Edit: Also, see if you can edit the title of this thread -- most of us here have very little to advise about can buying.
 
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in terms of buying a cab, what specs do people consider to be important?

Sound, Volume, Weight and Size are the specs that most people are looking at.

When in the market, you should answer a few questions that will help you look into the right cab(s).

1. How many cabs:
Will one cab be enough for everything you do? If that cab has more than one speaker, might it be a good idea to get two cabs (i.e. instead of a 410 you get 2 210s or instead of a 210 you get 2 110s)?
You should have a cab that can handle all your volume requirements. If there is a big gap between your loudest requirements and your standard requirement, it could be that you can get away with one cab on most occasions and only need to bring the other one if it gets loud.

2. How loud should it get? You don't bring a knife to a gunfight. You also don't bring a 2x10 cab when the guitars are playing 100W tube heads into 412 Marshall cabs and the drummer is playing those sticks that don't get thinner at the end because these break all the time.
At the same time do you not really want to bring a 8x10 to the ukulele group. It's overkill if you have to sell the compact car and buy a truck to transport your full stack when all you do is folk and jazz gigs.
Your cabinet should be loud enough so you get heard and have a bit of room to spare, but at the same time it should not nuke the entire ensemble when turn the master vol to 3 instead of 0,5.

3. Is size and weight important? You can pick any two of Hoffmann's three: Light, Loud, Cheap. There are cabs that are light and loud, but they cost you. There are cabs that will be loud and are affordable, but you better have a healthy back. And there are cabs that are light and cheap, but you need to bring a lot of them because they are not loud.

4. Ohms. On a solid state amp you must not undercut the minimum ohms requirement. With a tube amp you should match it exactly, even though there is a certain margin, depending on the amp.
If you're planning something modular like a 212 cab and a matching 112 cab, you'll typically end up with something like an 8 ohms 112 and a 4 ohms 212, which is good because the power distribution between those three speakers is even - but the resulting load is 2,67 ohms which requires an amp that can do 2 ohms and there are not that many of them out there. If you're planning on maybe adding a cab in the future, go with the 8 ohms version if you have the choice (unless your amp can do 2 ohms).
 
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If it's a good cab, size does not matter.
A few years ago a festival promotor rented an EBS rig: HB360 head with a 2x10 cab for the main stage.
I was a bit skeptical since the stage was pretty big, and my band played sort-of-punk-rock with two LOUD guitarists (AC30 combo + 100W Fender Bassman+412), but I had no need to turn the main volume knob more than 6/10. And no, I didn't put any bass in my monitors.
 
Most important....what is your budget?

Generally at 2x10 is not going to cut it for gigging, but it depends on the gig. Should be fine to go with an acoustic guitar group or something not too loud, but if you're doing rock with two guitars and drums you'll need more for sure.

I did TONS of gigs using a 2 x 10" with a loud guitarist, a drummer who was the loudest drummer I ever played with and a 2nd guitarist/singer who played electric about 25% of the time.

I cannot express well enough how freaking hard the drummer played, he was a maniac (5' 5", the little drummer dudes always pound the hell out of their kits).

As long as it was not outside, or in a large venue I had no issues at all with it being loud enough and it was powered by a 350 watt Ampeg.

For these kinds of gigs there was no PA support for the bass, just vocals, an electronic drum pad (used for special sampled effects so not full time), and acoustic guitar through the PA.

Analogeezer
 
It’s always a pretty safe bet to just stick within the family of your amplifier. If the amp is an Ashdown, get an Ashdown cabinet. If the amp’s a Genz-Benz, get a GB cab. K.I.S.S.

regarding 210 vs 212 vs 215 vs 2x112 vs 2x115 vs 610 etc., if you’re playing non-coffeeshop gigs where, instead of a PA, it’s you who’s supplying the bass to the room, go as big as your car’s trunk can handle.
 
As you are seeing, lot's of opinions - this is a very personal choice. After a couple of years of gigging, this is my approach:
Went with a head + cab vs combo approach. I like the versatility of having separate components. I also like that each piece can be much lighter than a combo. There are some very light combo options out there, but aren't really suitable for most gigs. I am currently gigging a GK 1200 Legend for my head.

As far a s cabs, it depends on the type of gig; if I have FOH support, I just use a 210 cab for stage noise. It's plenty for that (even with 2 guitars and caveman drummer. For gigs without FOH, I'll use either:
1 210 cab (small venue) or 2 210 cabs or 1 210 + a 115 or even 2 210 and the 115. The 210s are MarkBass Travellers and weigh in at about 26 lbs apiece. I chose them for price and weight, but they produce a nice sound. The 115 was picked up used some time ago. It hasn't actually gigged yet (it's in the 40 lb range).

I tend to gig in many different locations, so I like the flexibility of tailoring my rig to the gig. If I had some sort of residency and could leave gear in one place, I'd love to have bigger cabs (like a fridge), but I just won't try to lug one of those around for the gigs I do.
 
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Hi all, hope you’re keeping well.

im in the market for a cab and was looking for some sage advice.
I’m newish to bass, drumming and gigging 20 years and want to get out gigging on bass now.

I trust my ears more than anything else when buying gear but where I am there aren’t many cabs to try out.

in terms of buying a cab, what specs do people consider to be important?

I was thinking of a 2 x 10 but looking for info to help make the decision

cheers

I have a 210 cab, which is used in conjunction with FOH support that handles about 90% of my gigs. I have a second 210 cab for very large venues with large stages and or outdoor concerts.

If you play with a lot of low end, no front of house PA support, and or really loud band, you may want to look at other options listed on this thread.
 
Hi all, hope you’re keeping well.

im in the market for a cab and was looking for some sage advice.
I’m newish to bass, drumming and gigging 20 years and want to get out gigging on bass now.

I trust my ears more than anything else when buying gear but where I am there aren’t many cabs to try out.

in terms of buying a cab, what specs do people consider to be important?

I was thinking of a 2 x 10 but looking for info to help make the decision

cheers





If money is no object, I'd suggest your checking into Bergantino's 210 cabs.
IMHO, best of the best, but it'll cost ya!

If money is kinda-sorta a object, I'd suggest your checking into Revsound's RS210 cabinets.
Great cabinets at a reasonable price.

If money "is" a object, I'd suggest your checking into Avatar's 210 cabinets.
Inexpensive, well built, using driver's and components as good as and better than most commercial manufacturers cabinets.

I've been gigging two, Avatar B210 Neo cabs in a working band since 2008.
They sound great "to my ears" and have stood up to constant use as well as the high dollar cabinets I used to gig with.

I use two, 210's stacked as a vertical 410 for most gigs, one cab for small stages/rehearsals.
I have FOH support available at 100% of our jobs.
 
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A 210 will cover many gigs, but a 410 can handle just about any gig. Check used shops for used cabs because it takes a while to find which cab fits your style and sound best. You will probably cycle through a few before finding the cab that you really like.
 
Greetings @pegdrums! The best thing that happened to me, as a drummer, is when my bassist showed up with an 8x10 fridge. Then I became a bassist and couldn't imagine hauling such a thing around. Oh, to be 20 years old again! I play through a 1x15" and am happy with my volume paired with drummers. Good luck on your quest! Swing by the "Drummers Who Became Bassists" club any time! Drummers who became bassists
 
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If you found a 2x10 that you like I would go for that. If that's not loud enough get another 2x10. And if you need more, get a 3rd.

If you find a 1x12 or 1x15 you like, advise is the same.

Modular rigs are awesome because you can bring what you need, they're easier to arrange in your car, weigh less (per cab compared to a larger cab), and if one messes up you have the other cab(s) as backup. Downside is they tend to cost more overall.
 
Let's try to narrow it down some. What kind of music? What sized venues? How loud? Loud drummer? Egomaniacal guitarist? Do you already have an amp? If so, what... or at least, how much power? Having more info will lead to more useful suggestions.

Edit: Also, see if you can edit the title of this thread -- most of us here have very little to advise about can buying.

Thanks for the reply. Cant edit the title I'm afraid but I'm sure some of you have bought your share of 6 packs over the years so could probably give more advice than ya think

At the moment Im still in my house, practising away BUT Im in the process of putting a band together. Hopefully the band will be putting together a list of covers, pub covers so the fairly typical range of pub covers from rock to pop to a few soul/ Motown tunes.

Venues? Small to start with. Hopefully go on to some slightly bigger venues.
Bandmates? Im touching 40 so hopefully egos will have exercised their demons and things will be loud but not tooooo crazy.

Amps? I know I will never get it right first time gear wise (20 years of drumming taught me that). But I would like to future proof as much as possible. I was looking at these options:

https://www.thomann.de/ie/tc_electronic_bq500_bass_head.htm

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My plan (rightly or wrongly) is too get a very nice cab that in the future I can add a second one too. Regarding the amp, I guess the more I learn about sound/ tone etc Im gonna wanna change/ swap amps etc but having a nice cab as a foundation.
 
Most important....what is your budget?

Generally at 2x10 is not going to cut it for gigging, but it depends on the gig. Should be fine to go with an acoustic guitar group or something not too loud, but if you're doing rock with two guitars and drums you'll need more for sure.
Sound, Volume, Weight and Size are the specs that most people are looking at.

When in the market, you should answer a few questions that will help you look into the right cab(s).

1. How many cabs:
Will one cab be enough for everything you do? If that cab has more than one speaker, might it be a good idea to get two cabs (i.e. instead of a 410 you get 2 210s or instead of a 210 you get 2 110s)?
You should have a cab that can handle all your volume requirements. If there is a big gap between your loudest requirements and your standard requirement, it could be that you can get away with one cab on most occasions and only need to bring the other one if it gets loud.

That was partly my idea, get a cab I can pair another with later. The 2x10 sitting on a 1x15 might work? Again the idea of future proofing appeals....couple years down the line I can add a cab and develop my rig rather than sell my gear to fundraise for a new set up.

2. How loud should it get? You don't bring a knife to a gunfight. You also don't bring a 2x10 cab when the guitars are playing 100W tube heads into 412 Marshall cabs and the drummer is playing those sticks that don't get thinner at the end because these break all the time.
At the same time do you not really want to bring a 8x10 to the ukulele group. It's overkill if you have to sell the compact car and buy a truck to transport your full stack when all you do is folk and jazz gigs.
Your cabinet should be loud enough so you get heard and have a bit of room to spare, but at the same time it should not nuke the entire ensemble when turn the master vol to 3 instead of 0,5.

500w - 800w heads as in links above. As I said in the last post Im not even gigging right now but will be.

3. Is size and weight important? You can pick any two of Hoffmann's three: Light, Loud, Cheap. There are cabs that are light and loud, but they cost you. There are cabs that will be loud and are affordable, but you better have a healthy back. And there are cabs that are light and cheap, but you need to bring a lot of them because they are not loud.

Loud with good clarity is what Im looking for. Castors can be put on if needs be and my hardware case for my drums was heavier than any bass amp I ever put in the back of my car so Im not too worried about weight. (says he not currently gigging )

4. Ohms. On a solid state amp you must not undercut the minimum ohms requirement. With a tube amp you should match it exactly, even though there is a certain margin, depending on the amp.
If you're planning something modular like a 212 cab and a matching 112 cab, you'll typically end up with something like an 8 ohms 112 and a 4 ohms 212, which is good because the power distribution between those three speakers is even - but the resulting load is 2,67 ohms which requires an amp that can do 2 ohms and there are not that many of them out there. If you're planning on maybe adding a cab in the future, go with the 8 ohms version if you have the choice (unless your amp can do 2 ohms).

I won't lie, ohms confuse me!! I'll get there
 
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