Can I make a small/medium gig with 75Watts?

[Linnin]

I've never heard of the brand name "Group" before. Try this Fabio. Ask if you can try the rig out on your gig. If you like it you'll make the trade, if not you won't. 120 watts + 1x15 should be louder with more clean headroom than your Line 6. Best of Luck to you!

 

[buldog5151bass]

Not a known brand at least here (and it looks older, by vintage, I assume he means "old"). But the above suggestion is a good one. Ask if you can use it for the gig, or at lteast practice. That will give you a better idea. You can also ask him why HE wants to make the trade - the fact that he is trading down makes me suspicious as to the condition of his stuff.

 

[hazmatt]

it is quite possible the owner of the group & 15 cab may trade because he is tired of carrying that.......older often means heavier.

 

[hazmatt]

fabio, exista um forum para baixa, onde posso aprender vocabulos para a musica e pratico meu portugues?

 

[will33]

i would never expect a drummer to 'bring it down'. i play drums also, and you cannot play the same when switching intensity. they need to play it the way they learned it. i do not think it is fair to ask a player to change because other members equipment is substandard for the job. more/bigger speakers is the key here.

Playing drums at full volume in a restaurant won't get you asked back, though it might get you told to leave early with empty pockets.

Drums have dynamics like any other acoustic instrument. There's also rods, brushes, etc.

 

[Slevage]

Man, I dislike those "stix". No attack. No subtlety. Nuttin.

I guess I've been lucky to work with drummers that can use them with as much dynamics and articulation as they can sticks.

Then again--- I've heard roofers that sounded better than some drummers who own drum sticks and drums.

 

[will33]

The rods I'm talking about are the ones that look like a bundle of shishkabob skewers taped together. Some guys can work them pretty well, others not so much.

There is another type of stick I don't know the proper name of. Looks a bit more like a regular stick but thinner and plastic. Those can get a pretty wide dynamic range, including pretty quiet, but seem to have a more stick-like bounce and feel to them for guys who don't like the rods.

Perhaps get your drummer a pair of those for their birthday or something.

 

[Downunderwonder]

And do you know the brand? Is it good? And the sound? I'm interested in more volume, but also a good sound!!

I know nothing of that rig apart from

A, it's vintage solid state, tends to be conservatively rated.

B, it's a 15 and presumably tuned for bass, so it will be quite able to gig with musicians.

Tone is subjective, what I like may not be what you like. Twiddling knobs always gets me something at least acceptable, usually quite fine. Old SS can have some very cool tube emulating overdrive if you're lucky.

In your situation the most important tonal quality is oomph. Considering it's a no cost sideways move you should at least check it out.

 

[Fábio Duarte]

fabio, exista um forum para baixa, onde posso aprender vocabulos para a musica e pratico meu portugues?

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[Fábio Duarte]

I'm interested in a trade with a Peavey TKO 115, 80watts RMS, 15" speaker, 8 ohms. I think it's better than the 'Group Rig'.

 

[okcrum]

I have done restaurant gigs (with a drummer) with my Studio 110 without problems. A small, live room is about the biggest gig I'd use it for without FOH support. Placement of the amp is important.

 

[Fábio Duarte]

I have done restaurant gigs (with a drummer) with my Studio 110 without problems. A small, live room is about the biggest gig I'd use it for without FOH support. Placement of the amp is important.

What do you recomend by 'placement of the amp'?

 

[okcrum]

At least near a wall, preferably in a corner. You need all the low end reinforcement you can get to make such a small amp work. More importantly, the whole band needs to be able to play at well managed levels.

 

[Downunderwonder]

If there is no upgrade happening:

Place the amp directly in the corner, no matter how badly the drummer would like to be there you must find him another spot. Put the amp up on a small table 2ft high. Reduce your low end EQ.

Having the corner is the equivalent of 4 amps worth of low end from the single amp compared to placing it in the room.

More about placement, from before.

 

[Downunderwonder]

Against the wall but 3 to 8ft. from the corner is counterproductive. Be in the corner or well away, with any rig, but with your little thing be in the corner, twice as much oomph as wall placement.

 

[okcrum]

i would never expect a drummer to 'bring it down'. i play drums also, and you cannot play the same when switching intensity. they need to play it the way they learned it. i do not think it is fair to ask a player to change because other members equipment is substandard for the job. more/bigger speakers is the key here.

If you don't have the technique, you can't get softer. Same goes for slower.

 

[Jeff Bonny]

I've used my 50W Micromark 801 on a few sans drummer restaurant gigs and it's worked fine even not running through the PA in smaller rooms. You don't need to be loud to play with presence and authority. It might be more a placebo than anything else but an old Aguilar DB 924 preamp seems to give me a substantial low mid that sits well with voice and guitar without being very loud or boomy.

 

[Fluid Power]

I couldn't practice with a full band (not loud band) with that, no way. (PR350 + 210 Min) but that was with no PA.

 

[bolophonic]

Am I the only one who thinks that Group rig looks cool as hell? I'd try it out.

 

[Feral Feline]

Get your drummer to play with hotrods, and make him/her keep playing hotrods after you get a 300w+ amp and suitable speaker cab.