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Can you actually read music

Can you read sheet music?

  • Yes I can read music

    Votes: 207 76.1%
  • I am unable to read music

    Votes: 65 23.9%

  • Total voters
    272
  • Poll closed .
I was a music major at Western Michigan University (vocal jazz and instrumental education). So yes, I can read music. Any single clef, piano, organ, and full orchestration. Now if only I could play bass as well as I read music...
(and if my Aunt had balls, she'd be my Uncle...)
 
I went thru lots of classical training, and have always written my own bass charts, so I'm comfortable with trad notation.

But my guitar player is totally self-taught. He's got plenty of real life, high level pro gig experience, and has learned enuf to keep up.

What kills me is that he's actually better than me at following a chart with a complex form, because he has had to do it more often than me, and in higher stress situations.
 
both clefs, some simple note transposition (I arrange for horns, and have to read their keys, and sometimes play their parts on bass), Chord charts, numbers charts, too. You have to able to transpose... Tabs are a waste of time, except for showing articulations that don't display well on a staff.

Learn to read....
 
I read proficiently .... been reading music since I was in 2nd grade, I don't think of it as any type of special skill, though. It's just something that I've always been able to do, just like I have always been able to read words. I grew up with it, and it's very natural to me.

You don't need to be able to read music to be a musician, especially if you become a rock star or some other high level of paid professional. TalkBass is full of threads about superstars that can't read, yet make more money in a year than most of us will make in a lifetime.

But if you intend on becoming a working professional musician (non-rock star status :)), reading is a basic fundamental that you should have under your belt, along with theory, composition, arranging and a bunch of other skill sets. Working stiff professional musicians need to grab every opportunity to make money that they can, and the lack of basic professional skills such as reading, arranging, etc will severely limit your income.

Reading doesn't make you a great player, and not being able to read doesn't make you a lousy player .... :cool:
 
I can and do read music for 95% of my gigs. As a very over-simplified rule of thumb, the reading gigs also tend to be the better paying. I learned how to play rock, pop and blues by ear. Then in my early twenties I started getting involved in jazz and learned how to read chord charts. After getting pretty proficient with charts and by force having to learn the theory behind the chords, I began to also be able to "read" the piano players left hand.

I was playing a society gig one night and the pianist, who is also a bassist, asked me if I could cover a show for him the next weekend. Thinking it was another casual, I said, sure. It turned out to be a production of the musical Shenandoah. I was in way over my head. I got the score a couple of days before hand, I knew "Good boys deserve favor always, and all cows eat grass," so I penciled in the note names above the staff. As for the rhythm, I at least knew the basic whole, half, quarter, eighth, etc. It was really my ear that got me through - whatever the piano player played with her left hand, I played. I, somehow, pulled it off enough that even though the conductor knew I was faking it, she hired me for their next show. That's when I sat down and started to really teach myself how to read.

It wasn't easy, but then again it was just practice, practice, practice. I also started to immerse myself in musical theater where reading and following a conductor was a requirement. Now, 30 some odd years later, I'm reasonably good at it.

As to the question about whether or not one needs to be able to sight read in order to qualify as a reader - I think, by way of analogy, someone who is perfectly adept at reading a novel or a newspaper being handed an advaced organic chemistry text book and asked to read it without pausing to figure out the complex chemical names is still somone who can read, just one who needs to take some time to become familiar with the material.

Cheers,
Dennis
 
This, to me, feels a lot like a bit of a discussion I had a while ago: I was asked if I was a musician. Now, I've been playing a musical instrument for more than half my life, have been complemented many times on my playing ability, and have even made significant money doing so occasionally. In most circles, my answer would have been a simple "yes".

However, the setting in this case was at a Salvation Army dinner, and the person asking was a member of the traveling brass ensemble who was being showcased that night. Now, I have come to The Army very late in life, but I know people (one of them being the whole reason I started playing music to being with) who grew up as Salvationists. They are taught to read music at the same age they are taught to read the Bible. On any given Sunday, I am essentially outclassed by pretty much anyone over the age of, say, 7. So, the answer to the question of being a musician was, in this case, "Well... kinda."

So to this question I have a similar answer. In most circles, say the average band I gig with, sure, I can read. I can look at a composition and tell you the time signature, the key, and if given a few minutes can suss out most of the notes.

(As an aside, I once joined a band named Circle of Fifths, thinking I was going to need to brush up on my theory. Turns out they were 5 guys sitting around stoned one day and thought the name was cool. I actually had to tell them what it meant... anyway.)

But ask me on a Sunday between 9am and 1pm or so, and no... can't read a note. :p
 
Came up playing piano like many children; was taught to read as a common standard to learning music.We had Music in school with one old piano and we all learned to read music. In my elementary school we had it for several years.

I think someone could get by without reading however they would need to understanding timing notation (drummer's reading) and know the fret-board without any hesitation. Too many things are missing from tabs. Occasionally I see a tab written by someone obviously who reads. But then it's no real difference that common Bass cleft; the person might as well read and be done with it.
A very rudimentary tab generally must be accompanied by either a recording or the player must know the piece beforehand.
Reading is not that difficult. Theory in all it facets can be involved; but simply reading a staff and knowing the timing, etc, isn't too much more than a well annotated tab.
 
Well, I know the notes but I can't sight read. It's one of those things that you have to do over and over again and I just don't do it enough because music is not my primary line of work, I'm an accountant and well, I can balance a check book to the penny and I can usually help those that are off by a penny find that penny! It's all about repetition!
 
But my guitar player is totally self-taught. He's got plenty of real life, high level pro gig experience, and has learned enuf to keep up.

What kills me is that he's actually better than me at following a chart with a complex form, because he has had to do it more often than me, and in higher stress situations.

I must admit I learnt like this too. I can read music, but I had to learn to read charts 'on the job' so to speak (as part of a worship team) and as a result, I learnt to cope with pretty much anything, including chord extensions and inversions, and I also learnt how to do this under time constraints and pressure of often never hearing a song before playing it.

Funny thing is that I was the only bassist there who could read standard notation but I was the youngest of the three bassists on the team. I would have thought that older bassists would have picked this up as they played...
 
I can sight-read most classical era music (Mozart, Handel, etc) but struggle with sight-reading romantic or modern era classical. I have to actually work through those more slowly. I can read all charts, no problem, for jazz, etc....but oddly, I have never done tab nor have I ever been interested in learning tab!
 
Its funny how all people joke about reading and their ability or lack there of, but man the more you can do the more marketable you are.....sooooo why not just do it. To me reading music Is like picking up the morning paper reading the sports ect...whats so hard about that?
 
Its funny how all people joke about reading and their ability or lack there of, but man the more you can do the more marketable you are.....sooooo why not just do it. To me reading music Is like picking up the morning paper reading the sports ect...whats so hard about that?

Because to me it's like picking up the morning paper... in French. Yes, I know it a bit, and can probably get the main points, but fluency will take far longer than my life will likely permit.

The ability to natively incorporate a language (any type of language) into your thinking shuts off in most people at around the age of 12. After that, it all has to be done by relative comprehension (to use my French example, I translate the French word into English in my mind, rather than innately knowing what the French means).

I wish I had learned music notation in my primary years. Of course, I didn't know I wanted to be a musician then, and there was nothing compulsory in my education system.

I have started many times along the path to full comprehension (at least, that was my intent). I just find it too time consuming for something that has not been necessary for my life as a musician.

That being said, I am considering filling the bass void in my church's Worship Team, so that may change. I don't know yet.

But anyway, no... it's not as simple as picking up the morning paper, unless you happen to be one of those 0.00001% of the population who are innate polyglots.
 
I've been reading music for 3 months. Taking on a church gig now
Get music & the corresponding sheets to go with it & you'll learn in a hurry

YOU STOLE MY DESERT GOLD BONGO & I"M STILL MAD AT YOU BTW.
Getting a Cabernet Pearl HHp though :)