Carbide Tipped Endpins

Discussion in 'Setup & Repair [DB]' started by anonymous12251111, Jun 20, 2008.

  1. anonymous12251111

    anonymous12251111 Inactive

    Apr 6, 2007
    So I'm looking for a really good endpin for my new bass. I'm considering the "N-Pin" because it's carbon fibre, very strong and the tip will NEVER get dull. Does anyone know of any other end-pins? I have a Gotz currently and I'd prefer something lighter and with a sharper tip like the N-Pin.
  2. I find my plain steel enpins get sharp pretty easily with a quick pass on my bench grinder, or probably even a stone or file. They're pretty soft but they stay sharp enough for at least a year or so. Carbide probably sounds good, but it seems like overkill to me.
  3. Dr Rod

    Dr Rod

    Aug 19, 2005
    not at all, they are great

    Stetson at sells one as well.

    You should know that they do go dull eventually, especially if you treat them rough.
  4. I'm going to play devil's advocate and ask why you need a sword on the end of your bass? why do you need it to be so sharp? I haven't found anything that the rubber tip won't grip on.
  5. jschall84


    Mar 14, 2007
    fort wayne, in
    Bad MammaJamma
    in case you want to drill a hole in the stage? :eyebrow:
  6. provides better stage resonance right?
  7. anonymous12251111

    anonymous12251111 Inactive

    Apr 6, 2007
    heh. I just prefer the sound of carbon-fibre, and from what I've seen most of the carbon fibre pins have a carbide tip because they're stronger and don't need sharpening as much.
  8. And, I suspect, because it's much easier to bond the carbide to CF than it would be with most other materials.

    CF is going to sound different to a metal pin, which might be a factor. Probably not a big difference overall, but still, it'll be there.
  9. Dr Rod

    Dr Rod

    Aug 19, 2005
    How well the rubber tip works depends greatly on the weight of your bass, whether you play at a very slanted angle, whether you lean onto the bass putting extra body weight etc....

    Carbide tips are not sharper than a normal metal tip, they are just harder so won't go dull as easily.
  10. Well that explains A little, I have a medium weight bass, and I play almost straight up and down. mine has a point, but I've never need ed to use it, also if the endpin ever slips I will have finally found a use for my cake of pops rosin.
  11. A lot of guys (myself included) like a nice sharp tip to catch a purchase on a hard floor, usually wood. I think it generally sounds better, and sometimes even the best rubber can slip if the stage is dusty or something. I keep my pins sharp, and then I take the original rubber tip with the threaded insert and reshape it so it can be stuffed into one of those big, soft crutch tips. That way I can protect the spike and also have a nice grippy rubber tip for places that don't allow a spike.
  12. anonymous12251111

    anonymous12251111 Inactive

    Apr 6, 2007
    my thoughts exactly, is it too much to want to have a nice sharp tip??
  13. E.O.M.


    Dec 7, 2001
    Grand Rapids, MI
    During important performances, such as recitals, I always take the rubber tip off my endpin. It gives me a huge sense of security.

    The sharper the angle (seated or bent endpin), the more necessary it is for a sharp tip.

    Carbide sounds cool; I'll consider it if my steel pin ever becomes dull beyond repair.
  14. RCWilliams

    RCWilliams Commercial User

    Apr 23, 2007
    Merriam Kansas (Kansas City)
    owner RC Williams Co. LLC
    carbide tends to stay sharp but is suseptable to shock, it is very brittle and requires a diamond wheel to sharpen. that said it will hold a point much longer than steel, especally if the steel isn't hardened.
  15. salcott

    salcott Supporting Member

    Aug 22, 2007
    NYC, Inwood.
    I used to like a spike endpin til I got a KC Strings wood w/carbonfibre shaft endpin. Now I make the bass vibrate instead of trying to vibrate the floor So far, no slip with the rubber tip on wood and concrete, and improved sound.