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Carvin SB5000 / SB4000 Roll Call...Part 4!

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#842
off topic but I needed to share. Dialed in a pretty killer tone last night with my SB5000F, not one that I was expecting.

My band was jamming on "Bullet the Blue Sky" by U2 and I was playing around with my tone, bass only. My rig remained the same as always, (heavy mids, big bottom with just enough treble for clarity) but I backed off the bridge pickup entirely, maxed out the treble, and set the tone control all the way off.

I managed to capture Claytons' tone perfectly. Even with a fretless, (and fingerstyle!) just digging in a little bit harder and getting that string to sorta smack the board at the back of the neck near the 20th was magical. My guitar player couldn't believe it.

I know, not much to raise the difficulty meter, and that tone may not be that great to many ears but that song IMO just rips and it's not one that I ever hear covered that often. My goal was to catch the angst and grittyness of the song (which I believe the drums and bass are the driving force there) so I was proud of myself and my SB that I was able to find it. We all got into it with that jam.
 
#845
You know its funny I did the same thing. Kinda held back on my first order. Then the second order I went all out... and didn't like it, sent it back. My most recent SB5000 order was even more plain than my first and I like it even more :)

Now I find myself eying something like this:
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#846
Jarrett said:
You know its funny I did the same thing. Kinda held back on my first order. Then the second order I went all out... and didn't like it, sent it back. My most recent SB5000 order was even more plain than my first and I like it even more :)

Now I find myself eying something like this:
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I didn't go with a fancy top or anything, but what I got is what I wanted. I was more worried about stainless and smaller frets than a top.

Keith did talk me into block inlays. After ordering I regretted it because it was 60 bucks more, but now that it's paid for, I'm glad I did it.

Not a fan of that headstock Jarrett, but the B50's are cool!
 
#849
I have gone back and forth on getting another SB or going with a B40 as well. Only change I would make would be to go with the traditional 2X2 headstock to mimic the Wal bass I've always wanted. Hog body, Walnut top, matching HS, double soaps, Rose with Blocks = sweetness :)

But I just dig the SB too much, the B-series just gets knocked down to "maybe next time" status.
 
#850
Bassist_Scott said:
I have gone back and forth on getting another SB or going with a B40 as well. Only change I would make would be to go with the traditional 2X2 headstock to mimic the Wal bass I've always wanted. Hog body, Walnut top, matching HS, double soaps, Rose with Blocks = sweetness :)

But I just dig the SB too much, the B-series just gets knocked down to "maybe next time" status.
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Check out the Brian Bromberg model for something a similar, but different. Equally compelling. I'd be hard pressed to pick an SB5000 over a BB25 or vice versa. Somewhat differnent, but both basses look like incredible instruments, affordable for the 'common man' like me. :cool:
 
#851
So, now Jarrett is going so far as to edit the evidence that the bass he is selling is made up of the neck from one bass and the body from another.

Classy.

Edited post:

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f8/ca...all-part-4-a-760919/index40.html#post11037474

Original post quoted:

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f8/ca...all-part-4-a-760919/index41.html#post11037879


Next, he'll be deleting the image from his webspace.


For the record, I don't think swapping necks is a big deal. I did the same thing with my Bongos. I'm not sure why he's trying to cover it up and keep it a secret.
 
#852
GRoberts said:
Check out the Brian Bromberg model for something a similar, but different. Equally compelling. I'd be hard pressed to pick an SB5000 over a BB25 or vice versa. Somewhat differnent, but both basses look like incredible instruments, affordable for the 'common man' like me. :cool:
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Oh ya, definitely the Brombergs are gorgeous basses. For some reason, I'm digging Carvins bolt on necks alot more lately, the ones they used on the SB are the best I've ever played. I don't think they offer the asymetrical (Bunny) neck profile on the Brombergs either which is a bummer. Maybe they'll add that later.
 
#853
He does have a point. Why would one not provide that information upfront, in one's sales ad?

Sure, it's your perogative and your business to conduct your ad in which ever manner you choose.

But, seems to me being forthright and disclosing all information up front, would be the honorable way to approach a sales ad. Rather than withholding certain information till you have a salivating fish already circling the bait .
 
#854
I totally agree Jarrett.

To the poster who is making an issue where there is none, ...Take the high road bro. Let go and be happy. :cool:

Based on everything I've read and seen, Jarrett is truly a stand-up guy and an awesome member of the TB Community. We are all fellow musicians with a passion for music, great tone and great basses. Nuthin' but love and respect for Jarrett from me. Lets come from a place of peace, acceptance and tolerance.
 
#856
Jarrett said:
It's just a matter of principle now. If this guy hadn't made such a big deal about it, stalked me all across the forum, I probably would have put it in there. But at this point, I'm not putting it in the ad and letting my stalker win.

I deleted those posts because I knew what his next step was. He was going to start taking those posts and putting them in my for sale ads. Think I am wrong? Then why did he notice I edited the posts? Stalker.

I've been selling gear online for a decade. I've seen these kinds of guys before. They are the unofficial forum police in their minds but in reality, just a forum stalker. And I just don't put up with that kind of BS.
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Yeah, I'm a stalker. Right.

I posted once that you might want to mention that the bass was made up of two basses. Which is cool. I don't think there's a problem with that. So, I made one post in your ad.

You want me to post the PM where you said it didn't belong in the ad? Because that certainly didn't make it sound like you were planning on disclosing it at any point.


You sent the PM asking me to remove it because it "didn't belong there." I told you no, and to ask a mod to remove it.
I'm guessing you didn't do that since I never heard from a mod. Instead, you deleted it and posted a second thread. Then, someone (not me) posted something in this second thread, and you deleted that one, too.

You talk about the "principle?" You say "I probably would have posted it if Stalker boy hadn't made a big deal about it." :eyebrow: I believe my original response to your first thread was "You might want to disclose that this bass is made up of a neck from one SB5000 and the body of a second one." That was it.

You say I'm stalking you. But, I'm not. You pissed me off when you decided to PM me and ask me to remove my post, and then deleted the evidence. So, I've been making a point to make sure people know it's a bass built from two basses.


You might say I'm doing it on principle. Off to start my thread in basses about the ethics of neck swapping disclosure in for sale ads. Feel free to chime in with your opinion.



Good luck with your sale.
 
#857
Jarrett said:
It's just a matter of principle now. If this guy hadn't made such a big deal about it, stalked me all across the forum, I probably would have put it in there..
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With all due respect, that just comes off a little silly. Either you're being forthright in disclosing all pertinent information regarding the bass, or you're not. What some guy on the forum is saying or doing should have no influence on you being forthright with your sales ad.

I'm sure you're a great guy and a well respected here at TB. But that doesn't mean excluding pertinent information about a bass in your sales ad, is acceptable and forthright.

Honestly, it just comes off as a cop-out and excuse.

Blaming bassmonkeee for your refusal to disclose pertinent information?:confused::confused:

Ooooooooooookay:rolleyes:

Shouldn't your main priority principle be forthrightness and honesty regarding the bass in your ad? Rather than making your principle about withholding information for the sake of "not letting the stalker win"?

Is it not BS to withhold pertinent information about a bass one is selling?

Sorry, you're not making much sense. Realistically, you're actually proving his point by being deceptive and withholding the pertinent information. And all for spite and for the sake of "Winning":rolleyes:

If you wanted to take the high road, you would take the High Road to full disclosure and honesty.

But hey, that's just me.

Oh that's right, you don't tolerate or put up with that kind of BS. Yes, well done. Good job:hmm::hmm::hmm:
 
#858
I'm done, anyway.

I think it's clear that you had no intention of mentioning it.

The funny thing is that I would have probably bought the stupid thing when you first posted it KNOWING IT WAS A NECK SWAP if it hadn't been passive. Funny how that works, huh?

Now it just makes me wonder what else you aren't disclosing unless someone asks the right questions.
 
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