That's exactly why Carvin created the SB4001 and SB5001 chambered. They received a lot of feedback about them being too heavy.
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Carvin SB5000 / SB4000 Roll Call...Part 4!
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If you go back in the thread some, you will see that a 5001 is not always lighter than a 5000. The instock page has proved that.
...and me too. I love the tone of my Geddy, but no way could I play it all night and not feel it the next day. Mick Jagger was right.
Yes, but it has allowed them to lower the overall average of weights across the SB500x line. Without the 5001, the heavier ones would even be heavier!
I haven't verified this, but I suspect they're reserving the lighter ash blanks for 5000's and the heavier ones are the ones being "regulated" by chambering. I would imagine they know a 11-12 pound bass would have VERY limited appeal, and the size and thickness of the SB body, while part of the tone factory, makes weight a bit of a challenge.
Man... I am freaking smitten with this SB5000 fretless. I am really kicking myself for putting off getting one this long. I've heard all the stories about not being able to take them right into a band situation and having to woodshed for a while before they were functional in a band, but I certainly did not find that the case. The opposite was true, it was pretty liberating.
I whipped it out with the acoustic trio last night and told them right from the beginning if they didn't like the sound or intonation or anything to let me know I would put it away. But the response was the opposite. They loved the vibe of it. I especially found it nice to harmonize with the vocals and catch those inflections as well as emulating horn parts in various songs. Very cool tool.
Now I really want a 6 string fretless. Wish Carvin had a SB6000/1 now. Carvin?
I whipped it out with the acoustic trio last night and told them right from the beginning if they didn't like the sound or intonation or anything to let me know I would put it away. But the response was the opposite. They loved the vibe of it. I especially found it nice to harmonize with the vocals and catch those inflections as well as emulating horn parts in various songs. Very cool tool.
Now I really want a 6 string fretless. Wish Carvin had a SB6000/1 now. Carvin?
That's Awesome Jarrett! The more I try new/different basses and gear, the more I am reminded that I have to try it in the band context. Otherwise I just don't get the whole picture.
Man... I am freaking smitten with this SB5000 fretless. I am really kicking myself for putting off getting one this long. I've heard all the stories about not being able to take them right into a band situation and having to woodshed for a while before they were functional in a band, but I certainly did not find that the case. The opposite was true, it was pretty liberating.
I whipped it out with the acoustic trio last night and told them right from the beginning if they didn't like the sound or intonation or anything to let me know I would put it away. But the response was the opposite. They loved the vibe of it. I especially found it nice to harmonize with the vocals and catch those inflections as well as emulating horn parts in various songs. Very cool tool.
Now I really want a 6 string fretless. Wish Carvin had a SB6000/1 now. Carvin?
Now I really want a 6 string fretless. Wish Carvin had a SB6000/1 now. Carvin?
There's a niche market here, definitely. NO ONE makes an affordable 6 string fretless jazz style bass. I would buy one in a heartbeat!
Man one of those walnut topped SBs in a six string model would be pretty sexy
I'm thinking flamed maple with trans green!
Man one of those walnut topped SBs in a six string model would be pretty sexy
I've been saying this since day one. A wide spacing (19mm) SB 6 string would be exactly what I'm currently looking for. The piggybank is filling up for a x-mas SB5000 if the 6er never comes to fruition.
Just finished another gig with the SB4000 ash/birdseye Fretless. The bass IS "all that". It gets down and dirty, i mean all the way from floppy strings, digging in growly to glissando-liciously smooth and beautiful. Another gig with it as my only instrument all night, another batch of proof that this is one fantastic instrument. I dig in pretty hard from time to time when the dynamics call for it.. this bass can take anything! Always there's a very full yet well defined presence across and up and down the board. I keep waiting for a gig to come along where the bass just isn't cutting it, but room to room it's really strong and gorgeous sounding. I usually have it set with the preamp on and a slight bass and treble boost just above the center detent (sp?) and the passive tone about 1/2 way down. sweet.
I might add, part of the reason for the great sound is the great head i play through as well.. the mighty (discontinued) carvin B1500. used to play vintage SWR stuff.. this carvin head smokes the old SWR SM400s i had for many years. What a combo.
There! I'm going to Bed!!!
I might add, part of the reason for the great sound is the great head i play through as well.. the mighty (discontinued) carvin B1500. used to play vintage SWR stuff.. this carvin head smokes the old SWR SM400s i had for many years. What a combo.
There! I'm going to Bed!!!
I, personally, would prefer a B60 over an SB6000. The B shape isn't all that different from the LB shape and I think the LBs look great, though a bit on the small side.
I love the string spacing on my SB5000--best 5 string neck I've ever felt. No question.
I tried the SB4000 and I don't mind the chunky neck. But the string spacing just seemed un-natural to me--too tight.
I tried the SB4000 and I don't mind the chunky neck. But the string spacing just seemed un-natural to me--too tight.
Exactly. The body is small. It looks great on a 4 string, but the neck looks a little too big for me on a 5er. A 6 I just can't imagine.
The issue is, Carvin isn't going to pop out a 6 string bass with 19mm spacing just like that. All their 6 string models have TIGHT (sub 17mm) spacing, and they don't make any pickups with a wide enough aperture to cover the span of the wide spacing.
Bummer, I would kill for a Carvin bolt on 6 with 19mm strings. But it ain't gonna happen, I'd bet a good bit of cash on it.
Bummer, I would kill for a Carvin bolt on 6 with 19mm strings. But it ain't gonna happen, I'd bet a good bit of cash on it.
Wow, slap me in the face!
I completely forgot that ALL of Carvin's basses use the same pickups. They are designed for 4, 5, and 6 string bass which is why this will not happen anytime soon.
The B models look great to me, too, and I think a B60 would be a nice looking bass. ALL sixers look a little odd to me since I'm so used to my four bangers, part of aesthetics is what you are used to, of course. When the SB models first came out I sorta' didn't like them. Then the more I saw, the more I liked, until I just had to have one. LOL.
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