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Double Bass Changing wheels

SAlcott

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Aug 22, 2007
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After 30+ years using the endpin wheel, I want to start using the bass buggy. Problem is, with the Mooradian Deluxe case I use, the thing won't stay on and the bass won't sit properly. The only suggestion so far is to use a lightly or unpadded case, which I don't want to do. Any ideas how to remedy this?
 
I use the bass buggy with a Bobelock (Upton Deluxe) bag and it works. I would have thought they were approximately the same thickness, but obviously not. My bass is a 3/4 Upton hybrid, and doesn't have particularly deep ribs; I think maybe 8 inches at the bottom, max. I guess I don't have any helpful suggestions.
 
After 30+ years using the endpin wheel, I want to start using the bass buggy. Problem is, with the Mooradian Deluxe case I use, the thing won't stay on and the bass won't sit properly. The only suggestion so far is to use a lightly or unpadded case, which I don't want to do. Any ideas how to remedy this?
Steve,
If you don't have the pad that fits between the buggy and bass, get it because it helps in minimizing movement. Rick might agree or not but that's my experience. I think if you adjust the straps and length of the bungee you will like it. I've had mine for ten years and although it's on its third axle, I love it.
 
You first should adjust the top end of the strap, so that the rubber strap is under some tension.
Then rubber foam mat helps to avoid slipping of the wheel wagon left and right but helps more with impact.
If the bass slips left and right on the wagon, glue some foam to the inner sides so that the bass fits in between.

Well, if your bass is wider than the space on the wagon, you need either a different wagon (DIY) or a less padded bag.
 
Salcott,
is the problem that your bass and bag are over 11.5 inches deep? if so, is it possible to compress the bag a bit so it will slip on? If you can get it on (with out too much compression) you can adjust the tension on the strap to keep it on. shoot me an email if you need help getting it adjusted. all of the buckles on the belts can be adjusted in either direction, I recently put one on my grand daughters 1/2 size cello, though you seem to be on the other end of the scale.
 
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I use the buggy with a Mooradian and I haven't have any major problems. The first few times I used the buggy it fell off during transit, but cinching it down very snuggly cured the issue.

How about putting Velcro on the buggy and the case where they make contact? I considered this for mine initially, but found strapping it down tightly worked well enough for me.

I never used an endpin wheel, my teachers and luthiers warned against them- I'm really glad to have the buggy!

Joe
 
Thanks for the replies. the problem is that the Mooradian deluxe bag is so thickly padded the bass won't sit all the way down and falls over to the bridge side. I'm going to have to schlep down to Gage's and see if they can figure it out. I may try the less-thickly-padded case as well.
 
Wel, this is one for the "go figure" file. Got home with the buggy for the second try, put it on, and it worked. Bass sits nicely on the platform between the wheels and doesn't fall over leaving the buggy in place like before. It's subway time.
 
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I did a major subway schlep last night with the buggy, and with the exception of a couple of glitches, it went well. I'll need to refine how I hold the bass so as to not strain muscles on the right side, but other than that all went well.
 
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I'm not sure how you ride the subway,I envision it as standing next to your bass one hand on the rail the other arm around your bass with it standing the end pin only, then the wheels will no longer on the floor ant it should be quite stable. If you need to tip it so you can hold it while you sit, tip it the opposite way so the wheels are up until you need to roll on.

Enjoy, I hope your buggie serves serves you well.
 
I've put a cap on the endpin socket and positioned the buggy so the bass can stand nearly vertical, so when I get my preferred spot at the end of the subway car, I can sit comfortably and manage the bass easily. I've found stairs to be easier to negotiate as well, since the weight of the buggy is closer than with the standard wheel. I have, however, had to allow a little more time in general because I can't move as fast as with the endpin wheel-a reasonable tradeoff for having the weight off my shoulder.