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Chorus/Flange for fretless

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EHX Neo Clone works nice with my Sire V7 fretless, although it shows a little loss of low end with my fretted AVRI '75 Jazz.
EHX Bass Clone should be even better because of blend.
Multieffect like Zoom MS-60B could be OK for, but then again maybe you wouldn't like it (great features but lousy bypass IMO).
 
#26
IMO the single best “secret weapon” effect to use with a fretless is a compressor. I’ve had good luck using a Keeley Bassist, a Smoothie, and (following Juan Alderete’s suggestion) an antique BOSS CS-2 if you’re curious.

I also think delay, phase shifting and vibrato generally work better for bass (fretted or fretless) than reverb, flanging, and chorus do. YMMV.
 
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Chef said:
1) I know ZERO about effects and what's available
2) I have a fretless Fender Precision, and fretless Fender Jaco, and a fretless Rob Allen MB2-5.
It seems to me as those many fretless players use just a tad bit of chorus/flange (am I even using the right term?!?!) both for color, and, perhaps, to mask intonation being not dead-on perfect....

Whats a good, cost efficient pedal device for this?

thanks
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Sounded great on Pictures of Matchstick Men. Bring it on!
 
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Flamingo21 said:
It has a sine wave option. (Look at the two tiny switches in the middle: the right hand one has the sine wave symbol above two other wave forms.)
So if it's important....
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Yeah, that's why it's on my list - just found Sweetwater had an open box demo of the Version 2 box for $30 off, so I snagged it. Will try to remember to post here with a review. :)
 
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bholder said:
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Sine wave bends smoothly with no corners, the others all have corners and big discontinuity jumps - what they cause in the sound is a pronounced pitch-warbly bendy garbling around the corners in the low frequency oscillator sweep. Sine wave LFO sweeps are smooth with no pitch garbling at the corners (since there are no corners). Some of the pricier ones have waveform options, but I'm thinking a cheap old used chorus might be just the thing - for example, the Boss CE-2B Bass Chorus can often be found cheap on ebay, I think that's got a sine wave LFO, I have one, I'll check.

Edit: I checked, it's a triangle, gets bendy unless rate is very slow. I know there are cheapish ones with the sine wave feature, just not coming up with one right now.
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Dude! You just missed the perfect opportunity to tell a mod to "use the search function"! :smug:
 
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Flamingo21 said:
Why?
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Ears mostly. Reverb (unless it’s an Iron Ether Nimbus) tend to muddy bass and lose the lows. A short delay can give you a lot of what many people use reverb for without the mud.

Phasers don’t tend to saturate your signal as much as a flanger does. So you get a sense of motion and subtle harmonic shifting. Flanging tends to be far more saturated and complex. Especially if you use the feedback or regen control many flangers come with. I just feel flanging does a little too much. Phasing hits the sweet spot.

Vibrato can give you some nice moduiatuoon and sweetening without being overwhelming. Chorus is (to me) just a little too busy and thick for bass most times. I think if you like the chorus sound you might do better investigating multi-octaver or overtone devices like the Pog, Sub & Up, Luxe, or the BOSS MO-2.

This is all just my personal tastes and opinions however. Feel free to disagree. Nothing in the above should be taken as gospel. Use your ears.
 
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Chef said:
1) I know ZERO about effects and what's available

It seems to me as those many fretless players use just a tad bit of chorus/flange (am I even using the right term?!?!) both for color, and, perhaps, to mask intonation being not dead-on perfect....
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Chorus works by injecting a detuned sample of the original signal. The amount of detuning varies with the rate of the LFO. So if your struggling with intonation, using a chorus could make matters worse. I chose the MXR134 because it has a button you can engage so the low end of the bass is not washed out by the effect.

A flanger works by injecting a slightly delayed signal to intentionally create comb filtering. The amount of delay varies with the LFO. At very low settings, I find my MXR M117R flanger sounds a bit like a light chorus...totally different sound at higher settings.
 
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40Hz said:
Ears mostly. Reverb (unless it’s an Iron Ether Nimbus) tend to muddy bass and lose the lows. A short delay can give you a lot of what many people use reverb for without the mud.

Phasers don’t tend to saturate your signal as much as a flanger does. So you get a sense of motion and subtle harmonic shifting. Flanging tends to be far more saturated and complex. Especially if you use the feedback or regen control many flangers come with. I just feel flanging dies a little too much. Phasing hits the sweet spot.

Vibrato can give you some nice moduiatuoon and sweetening without being overwhelming. Chorus is (to me) just a little too busy and thick for bass most times. I think if you like the chorus sound you might do better investigating multi-octaver or overtone devices like the Pog, Sub & Up, Luxe, or the BOSS MO-2.

This is all just my personal tastes and opinions however. Feel free to disagree. Nothing in the above should be taken as gospel. Use your ears.
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Delay is all the way somything different than reverb.
 

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