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Chris Squire vs Geddy Lee

#181
Duke21 said:
Dude you have to relax a bit. I did comment about Berlin's lack of ability to fill up Squire's shoes, but then I've deleted my post as I didn't want to drag him into this thread due to your attitude which reminds me of a football fan . In your 10 first posts in TB you managed to through critics upon members intelligence, hearing or the ability to play.
So cut down on coffee and relax to time will stand still by Rush. ;)
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Dude, I wasn't talking about you. :smug:

The quote he referenced was a reply to some other guy yesterday (don't remember his name) who came out on the offensive calling me a "troll" for bringing down Chris Squire's good name. I didn't appreciate that and I responded over harshly, which I apologized for. But the mods deleted his posts--not mine.

BTW, I will never cut down on coffee. And "Time Stand Still" is not a song I could relax to or enjoy all that much. If that was the best he could come up with post 70's I'd be bagging on him too and not just Squire. :cool:
 
#183
mellowinman said:
I saw the pot you quoted, when you posted it.
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It's not there anymore. It was deleted afterwards. I did not quote the post, so even I don't know exactly what he said.

mellowinman said:
Usually, the post you quote is the post you are replying to.
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Sure, if it's quoted. I didn't quote it because at that time I didn't realize there was a "quote" button.

mellowinman said:
Either way, it seems silly for people to get bent out of shape about who is a "better" bass player.
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Agreed. But it seems like you're being a little arbitrary picking on my response when I can't point to the original. Seems he was a little "bent out of shape", wouldn't you agree? Was I looking for a fight, or did I respond to something inflammatory (admittedly over-harshly on my part).

The mods deleted his posts, not mine, so it's not like I'm the "only" loose cannon here. :smug:
 
#184
bigsnaketex said:
I love it when "it" heats up!!
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Same here. I don't think it's getting nasty, just people giving strong opinions--which is what I _want_ to see from people whose opinions I respect. ie, fellow bass players.

bigsnaketex said:
I play a Ric.........therefore Squire is better (I don't even own a jazz!!)

wait, is that a good reason for an opinion???
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It works for me. But you know Geddy was a Ric man in the 70's, right?

Any great Squire basswork post 79 I should refamiliarize myself with? I'll give it another honest shot, no promises though. :)
 
#185
SquireMan4001 said:
Any great Squire basswork post 79 I should refamiliarize myself with? I'll give it another honest shot, no promises though. :)
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I really like _Syndestructible_ by the Syn, think it was around 2006. Not flashy but it has that classic Squire sense of what to play and when to play it.

I also think there is some really nice basswork on Yes's The Ladder.
 
#187
bigsnaketex said:
Ric's pop up everywhere. I was watching an Eagles documentary last night and was somewhat surprised to see Randy Meisner playing a MapleGlo Ric.

They're everywhere!!
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Yep. It's funny you mention the Eagles, too, as I just watched a blu ray of their last "Farewell" tour at a buddy's house this weekend. Damn, I forgot how good these guys were/are. I really must make a point of seeing them live during their next inevitable "farewell".

To keep it on topic, too, Timothy B. Schmidt is a very tasteful player and I'm still amazed it isn't a woman singing "I Can't Tell You Why"--in a good way. First time I heard this song back in the day I thought "who is that husky-voiced soulful woman"? lol

The highlight of the show for me was Joe, though. Can't take your eyes off of him.
 
#188
SquireMan4001 said:
I guess I don't see how that's remotely comparable. In 1935, Babe Ruth had already played for 20 years and established himself as the best player in history.

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The other problem with your analogy is that some of us HAVE seen Squire in his prime. If I never had, I would go to the local casino next month and check him out--just to say I did. But, since I've seen Squire at his peak, and all I see now is a husk, the last thing I'm going to do is go pay good money so I can feel bummed out that my hero is skipping notes and noodling his way through songs that made him a legend. No thanks--there are tribute bands I can go see and accomplish the same thing, with less sadness afterward.
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But the Babe still hit the famous "called shot" in those declining years; even Willie Mays, who was pretty pathetic there at the end, still would hit the ball out every once in a while. Those moments are going to be rarer as the skills decline, but all the more memorable, perhaps.

And, I did see Squire in his prime several times; have only seen him on Youtube in the past decade, and he obviously doesn't have the energy he did at age 20. And, I agree that his most innovative work clearly was 40 years ago. But, I'd still jam with him if I could.
 
#191
Rickengeezer said:
But the Babe still hit the famous "called shot" in those declining years; even Willie Mays, who was pretty pathetic there at the end, still would hit the ball out every once in a while. Those moments are going to be rarer as the skills decline, but all the more memorable, perhaps.

And, I did see Squire in his prime several times; have only seen him on Youtube in the past decade, and he obviously doesn't have the energy he did at age 20. And, I agree that his most innovative work clearly was 40 years ago. But, I'd still jam with him if I could.
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I think we're more or less in agreement, although I'm not as "kind" about it as maybe I should be. :D

I'd jam with him also and tell him what a huge influence he was. I'd really be stifling a "so what HAPPENED in the 80's, man?" though. Probably wouldn't go so well for me.

I also "keep up" with certain musicians via YouTube; you can't catch every show, after all. I'm more choosy about who I shell out cash for these days. My last three "big" shows were Rush, Van Halen, and Paul McCartney and all 3 were better than I expected. I'd kind of like to see the Smashing Pumpkins live--never have. anyone recommend them or not so good live?
 
#192
SquireMan4001 said:
I think we're more or less in agreement, although I'm not as "kind" about it as maybe I should be. :D

I'd jam with him also and tell him what a huge influence he was. I'd really be stifling a "so what HAPPENED in the 80's, man?" though. Probably wouldn't go so well for me.

I also "keep up" with certain musicians via YouTube; you can't catch every show, after all. I'm more choosy about who I shell out cash for these days. My last three "big" shows were Rush, Van Halen, and Paul McCartney and all 3 were better than I expected. I'd kind of like to see the Smashing Pumpkins live--never have. anyone recommend them or not so good live?
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Every Paul McCartney show I see blows my mind with the musicianship on display. I guess the boy can afford to hire the best!!

I saw Kid Rock this weekend in Nashville and it was suprisingly good as well.

It must be nice to not have to ask your friend to play in your band but to hire the best guy available!!!
 
#193
bigsnaketex said:
Every Paul McCartney show I see blows my mind with the musicianship on display. I guess the boy can afford to hire the best!!

I saw Kid Rock this weekend in Nashville and it was suprisingly good as well.

It must be nice to not have to ask your friend to play in your band but to hire the best guy available!!!
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Paul is a huge influence on me also so I've kept an eye on his career also. I have to say I actually enjoyed Wings, even considering some of their cheesy lowpoints.

It's the guys he surrounded himself with after Wings ended that I felt were sort of boring. They were name guys--Hamish Stuart comes to mind--but for whatever reason, the work was blah for me.

I think this new band of his are the best guys he's worked with, post-Beatles. And I don't think any of them were particularly well-known going in. Rusty Anderson is a monster on guitar. Hearing Jet live (if the guitar tone is done well) sends shivers up your spine.

Eddie Van Halen was also back on top form after spending much of the last 2 decades in a drunken stupor. His kid was "ok" on bass, nothing special. David Lee roth was amazing too. Who woulda thunk it.
 
#199
theobass416 said:
I want to know which bass master you like better. I know one isnt better than the other because you cant really judge that but i want to know which player you like more and why.
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These are my 2 favorite rock bassists and biggest rock influences in my playing since I got my first bass in 1978.

I have to go with Geddy for the odd structure bass lines and fingerstyle, as I play with my fingers 99% of the time and 1% with a Pick.

I love Chris Squire, and am a huge Yes fan. But I have a Rush Addict since 75 and Geddy is the one that made me try the bass.
 
#200
SquireMan4001 said:
Dude, I wasn't talking about you. :smug:

The quote he referenced was a reply to some other guy yesterday (don't remember his name) who came out on the offensive calling me a "troll" for bringing down Chris Squire's good name. I didn't appreciate that and I responded over harshly, which I apologized for. But the mods deleted his posts--not mine.

BTW, I will never cut down on coffee. And "Time Stand Still" is not a song I could relax to or enjoy all that much. If that was the best he could come up with post 70's I'd be bagging on him too and not just Squire. :cool:
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I deleted my own posts not the mods my behavior was uncalled for and I apologized for it. I had to catch myself in the middle of the argument and wonder what in the world am I fighting for? it was silly on my part to even start.
 

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