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Class D amps vs traditional amps

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Didn't look like he was answering for himself to me. Just creating additional opportunities to kick up more troll dust. That's how trolls work. Act just legit enough to create confusion so you'll divide the group into antagonists and defenders.

But even if he actually had a legitimate question, his social skills were pretty poor and he didn't seem much interested in informed opinions.
So much of this reply could apply to current politics in so many arenas. But I digress...
 
I've had a mixed bag of Class D's that left a bad taste in my mouth but not because they were Class D but for other reasons. The Fender Rumble 500: It's actually a good amp but the tone wasn't for me. It was plenty powerful but missing some growl that I like aka GK or old Hartke. The Carvin BX500: Sounded a bit bland to me but it had a lot of features. Very compressed sounding. As mentioned it can be a good thing. Traynor SGH200: sounded really good but not powerful enough so I'm sure the 500 would be a great choice. i would buy one if I saw it in the $300 range. Hartke TX600: I had such I hopes for this amp but not powerful enough and too boxy when cranked and a weird Midrange control. I heard there is a revised version and some better Hartke Offerings. Ampeg PF500: Good tone with some Ampeg midrange growl but a little compressed. It cut out when cranked to stage volume. I heard that is an issue with that model.

The GK MB200: Amazing amp. I bought this last week for $180 to use as a home practice amp and back up for gigs. As a main GK player this exceeded my expectations. It has a powerful 200 watts and a glorious GK tone but its not gonna hit the rails like a RB head. It's cleaner and a little more compressed. It's not a powerful as my 800RB or even 400RB but its definitely giggable in a loud rock band. They have a 500 and 800 watt MB that is discontinued but I heard the 200 is most reliable.
So that is my experience with Class Ds. Hope this helps the original poster but looks like his account is inactive. He seemed to have some combative responses so maybe that dropped a ban hammer.
 
I have not found a Class D that I didn't have to dig in to get the same results. I hate them. They all sound KILLER on the showroom floor, then take it to band practice and realize it's just carrots. The whole bottom end falls out. I'm SURE it's fine for a lot of situations, though.

I'll take an old iron transformer on my SWR Baby Blue II or Mesa Walkabout any day. Both weigh 13 lbs each and have PLENTY of power. Played many outdoor gigs with just a Mesa WA head and a 610 cab.
 
Absolutely! Plus, they have the “heft” and “slam” that you just cannot get from a smartphone. This is something you would know if you’ve ever dropped a rotary phone on your foot.
It is the slam you do when hanging up that is the true joy of old phones. :cigar:


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I don't look down on those who get sounds they love out of Class D amps. There have been some of those that I have really liked in the store. The Ampeg Portabass when they came out. Some of the Markbass stuff. But I returned my Little Mark -- it just didn't quite "have it" live. I'm ok with an 18 pound 480W amp. :)

Not to split hairs here, but the Little Mark was Class A/B.
The Little Mark II was, too. They switched to Class D in 2012 with the Little Mark III.
 
There are plenty of touring pro players that have been migrating to class D amps over the past few years. They don’t seem to have the difficulties getting their tone from these amps, or other amps for that matter.

I try to provide responses and information based on my perspective of many years in the industry. Nobody has to agree with my comments, or my perspective, but the information I provide is based on factually accurate information. Those interested in learning about the why’s behind aspects (both historical and current) of bass amp design are always welcome to learn.
 
I have not found a Class D that I didn't have to dig in to get the same results. I hate them. They all sound KILLER on the showroom floor, then take it to band practice and realize it's just carrots. The whole bottom end falls out.

It's interesting that that just doesn't happen for me. Maybe you guys rehearse a lot louder than I do. My Class D amps are Mesa and Ampeg, in the past have included Genz-Benz and EBS. I've had a bunch of traditional amps over the years including tube heads. I'm happy with Class D but waiting for Class X (that's Class D but with superpowers).
 
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