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Welp, I done it. I'm having the finish on the back of 4098's neck stripped off and replaced with oil. This bass is just such a total and complete player for me, and the sooner it has that well-worn warmer feel to it, the better.
Just makes the wait a little harder at this point.
By the time the back of the neck is wore in, the frets are wore out. Why not speed up the process. I agree, nothing feels better than an oiled neck. Go for it Vic.
What exactly do you think oil treatment will protect against? (aside from unwashed dirty hands)
I believe MM basses use Tru Oil (or such) treatment on necks & I've played more than one that has developed a "drag".
There's no way I take the nitro off a Sadowsky bass neck & leave it bare if I REMOTELY suspected possible instability.
Hey, I'm just passin' on some stuff I learned from experience not speculation, & this BTW is why I offered up "option" in the first place. Enjoy your bass.
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It provides a moisture absorption barrier (or at least inhibitor).
Yeah, we're gonna' have to simply disagree on this. I've played those necks too, as well as several Sadowsky and other basses with nitro (or even other finishes of various types) and I've never had drag issues on oil finished necks.
And I don't mean to suggest with bare wood you're guaranteed a stability problem. That's why I said "in some cases". That said, suffices to say there's a reason why most builders/luthiers put an oil finish on instead of leaving the wood bare. They feel it's best to have some kind of protection for the wood. Given that, I simply tend to feel better about having something there. IMHO/IME I guess. I assume nitro/poly also provides that, but the other reason to go with those finishes instead of oil is to also keep the neck from turning dark with use (purely aesthetic reasons).
To each their own. We're both doing what fits each of us best, and that's the way it should be.
If you want to avoid drag, you may have to retreat the neck every once in awhile (easy to do yourself). It's not a set it and forget it treatment for most people. That said my daily player over the last two and a half years is a MM and I have yet to do any retreatmeant on the neck.
Re: post #733 - Even Roger said that a solid NITRO finish provided 15% or so (Negligible IMO) moisture barrier. That means an oil treatment is redundant to my way of thinking. I've had no change in the need for truss adjustment since the operation & we get LOTS of humidity fluctuation here.
As far as guitar makers applying finish to the back of necks, I wonder if it's got anything to do with adverse acceptance of bare maple by players like yourself who will justify an "application" of some kind of finish regardless of validity.
My take only.
B.
As far as guitar makers applying finish to the back of necks, I wonder if it's got anything to do with adverse acceptance of bare maple by players like yourself who will justify an "application" of some kind of finish regardless of validity.
My take only.
B.
Yeah, that's why I said or at least inhibitor. Bottom line is, even if it only offers a small benefit, and it's not actually a necessity, it still has something to offer, and I do actually think it feels a little better, so at least for me, it's win/win. I don't think it's invalid, however. I think to suggest that is going too far the other way. IMHO/IME anyway.
I still can't believe you're going to do this without trying the bare maple for awhile. How do you KNOW the oil treatment feels better, not having given the absence of it a fair trial. The feel of the bare maple is INCREDIBLE!!! & is more so than I think what you perceive it to be. What a waste of opportunity here IMO.
I STILL think a back of neck treatment is invalid & having played a Sadowsky bass now without finish has been revolutionary for me. But hey - I won't be playin' your bass.
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You didn't read my previous post.I still can't believe you're going to do this without trying the bare maple for awhile. How do you KNOW the oil treatment feels better, not having given the absence of it a fair trial. The feel of the bare maple is INCREDIBLE!!! & is more so than I think what you perceive it to be. What a waste of opportunity here IMO.
I STILL think a back of neck treatment is invalid & having played a Sadowsky bass now without finish has been revolutionary for me. But hey - I won't be playin' your bass.
B.
I know because (again) I have tried both.
While the bare wood does feel really nice (give you your due here), I do actually prefer the oil finish to it because it feels more like a neck that's been played a lot, and again, I do believe it at least helps protect the wood. Again, win/win for me.
yuujin said:
I'm thinking that major bass surgery would likely kill the warranty. But I also think that an email to Roger would give you the official answer.
Is sending the bass to Sadowsky or an approved professional not possible? The TB iPhone app doesn't show users' locations, so I don't know where you are.
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I am sure someone has posted this cool bass and player , Ricky Minor playing a Sadowsky P bass , I have one and love it , so cool to hear such a player playing , love that bass and mine too. Bass Videos featuring Premiere Video Content from the Bass Community - BassPlayer.com
Thanks Craig, another P-Bro. Gotta book mark that. Nice Aggie rig there as well. The guy's a true gentleman & top rung player.
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EDIT: Almost missed the Q&A addition about rhythm section after the song. Nice stuff.
Trouble maker!What about fish oil? I eat a lot of fish 'n chips at my bar gigs.
