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Club Sadowsky!!!

#26,181
LizzyD said:
...One thing playing in this band has taught me...playing just a couple notes repeatedly for an entire song, without trying to fill it up with show-offy fills and whatnot, and just making it feel good is actually pretty dang satisfying. :cool:
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I have to echo this as well. In my case, I'm not really much of a soloist anyway, so playing super-duper snazzy runs isn't an option for me, but just being a foundation groove player makes me VERY happy! I love just focusing on "generating power" and energizing the music by focusing on dynamics, not notes. :)
 
#26,183
Vic said:
I have to echo this as well. In my case, I'm not really much of a soloist anyway, so playing super-duper snazzy runs isn't an option for me, but just being a foundation groove player makes me VERY happy! I love just focusing on "generating power" and energizing the music by focusing on dynamics, not notes. :)
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Vic, I envy you for getting to play "I Want You Back" by J5 at gigs... great job on your demo video. I'm stuck playing that one in my basement. It's more than just a foundation groove IMO (but no, it's not Jaco-snazzy).

Anyway... just wanted to echo what many are saying. Sadly, one of the guitarists I work with hates to play songs that don't have flashy solos. That's not me, I'm all about the groove! I'm as happy playing Duck Dunn as I am playing Jamerson, Flea, Geddy Lee.
 
#26,184
Fuzzbass said:
Vic, I envy you for getting to play "I Want You Back" by J5 at gigs... great job on your demo video. I'm stuck playing that one in my basement. It's more than just a foundation groove IMO (but no, it's not Jaco-snazzy).

Anyway... just wanted to echo what many are saying. Sadly, one of the guitarists I work with hates to play songs that don't have flashy solos. That's not me, I'm all about the groove! I'm as happy playing Duck Dunn as I am playing Jamerson, Flea, Geddy Lee.
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Thanks! Though I have to admit, the recording on that song in particular is not my fave. Shawn got a little "quantizer happy" on that track and the verse phrase suffered, sadly. Just believe that we cover it better live. :)

And yeah, those are all heroes of mine too!! :)
 
#26,186
I take all the blame for the lack of bass player in the video...I am the one who edited it! ;) Only had so much to work with. I also specifically instructed our hand held camera-woman, who got roped into it by default at the last minute, to give our vocalists the most attention because I wanted to emphasize their beauty, talent, and our song selection in as short a video as possible. I wanted it to be bang-bang-bang on the cuts and no lingering too much, kind of like how our sets are arranged. It's just a commercial, after all! ;)

I think we all would agree that most people (and uh, agents) notice the singer in a band first, then they notice the rest of the band (maybe.) I had a number of shots of me and wanted to use some, but they honestly just weren't very exciting and didn't fit anywhere. I'm totally fine taking the back seat. I mean, y'all see the shirt Steph is wearing. None of us are afraid to use a bit of sex appeal as a selling point, and considering the subject matter of a large amount of the material we play, it's appropriate.

I'm not into solos either, but I have a couple little spots that are holdovers from the bass player before me who is a real flashy player. I do what I can in those spots but I don't feel I'm very good at it. I can say that I've had a number of comments from various people I've worked with that they much prefer my solid holdin'-it-down style to the flashy players. So that makes me feel good. There's just something about making that bass and kick drum connection that's so deeply satisfying, especially on a big system. Soundguys like that too, it's easier on their subwoofers when the bass and kick aren't flamming! :ninja:
 
#26,188
LizzyD said:
...I can say that I've had a number of comments from various people I've worked with that they much prefer my solid holdin'-it-down style to the flashy players. So that makes me feel good. There's just something about making that bass and kick drum connection that's so deeply satisfying, especially on a big system. Soundguys like that too, it's easier on their subwoofers when the bass and kick aren't flamming! :ninja:
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You and I are SO on the same page. I've always felt like a fish out of water when trying to solo (which only happens on the odd jazz gig I play, and only when they forget I've told them to skip me in the rounds). I'm MUCH happier just focusing on trying to deepen the pocket, and I've also got some really nice feedback for having made that effort. Bass players are awesome. Period. :)
 
#26,192
CDweller said:
Does anybody know if you can get a 1 3/4" nut width on a 24 fret Modern?
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Assuming you're talking NYC, yes. That's a standard option on any NYC neck. My 24 fret Vintage has the 1 3/4 nut width, and it's pretty much if not exactly the same neck. Metro, I don't think so.
 
#26,193
west*coast*bass said:
Some of the best bass players in the world don't solo. I look at my job similar to Lizzy and Vic...I know where my place is and I like to stay there. That doesn't mean that I don't play with movement at times, but I leave the spotlight to our singer, lead guitarist and keyboardist.
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We are two hearts beating as one, bro.
 
#26,194
It took me many years to realize that my instruments appeal primarily to "groove" players rather than soloists. It is also where my heart is, as evidenced by the fact that I have never had any desire to build 6 string basses. But I still think one who holds down the bottom is worthy of camera time! ;)

I love you all.....

Roger
 
#26,195
Sadowsky said:
It took me many years to realize that my instruments appeal primarily to "groove" players rather than soloists. It is also where my heart is, as evidenced by the fact that I have never had any desire to build 6 string basses. But I still think one who holds down the bottom is worthy of camera time! ;)

I love you all.....

Roger
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We love you too, Roger :)
 
#26,196
Sadowsky said:
It took me many years to realize that my instruments appeal primarily to "groove" players rather than soloists.
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A good match for me, then. I'd like to be able to swing serious chops into play once in a blue moon, but as I've developed as a player over the past couple of decades, my appreciation for a solid groove has completely overtaken the love I used to have for overplayed bass parts.

Sadowsky said:
It is also where my heart is, as evidenced by the fact that I have never had any desire to build 6 string basses. But I still think one who holds down the bottom is worthy of camera time! ;)
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I agree, though my experience back in film school bears out the statement above that sometimes it's not the cameraman or even editor who decides which players get the screen time. Personally, I think that extensive band experience should be a prereq for producing or directing professional shoots of live performances.

But then again, I'm totally wasting my degree: I work in magazines, not film or TV shoots.
 
#26,197
LizzyD said:
This is my Top 40 band's promo video if anyone's interested. (yep it's the alter-ego of my original band Pretty Enemy)

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Not exactly a bass showcase but I thought it came out ok for something I kind of threw together with what footage I had. Most of our casino venues do not allow any filming and unfortunately the one that did has barely any lighting gear and no one to run it. But at least we're WELL lit! ;)
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Awesome video and band. Great playing and great energy from the whole band. I agree with everyone on playing solid and locking with the drums or just working with the beat is much more rewarding. When you do throw in a lick or fill every now and then it is tasty and gets noticed.

We play a lot of the same newer POP songs. It really works and they are so much fun to play.

The very first thing I noticed was Keys with no keyboard player. Do you sample all of the keys?
 
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A 1 7/8 nut yields 0.375 width per string on a 5-string, which is the same proportion as a 1.5 nut on a 4. I imagine that the string spacing in a Sadowsky bridge is wider than 19mm. Is a retrofit bridge available to get the strings a tiny bit closer? My Modern is perfection save for the string width in the upper registers (while I'm a slave to the groove, soloing way up high isn't out of the question)
 
#26,199
Sadowsky said:
It took me many years to realize that my instruments appeal primarily to "groove" players rather than soloists. It is also where my heart is, as evidenced by the fact that I have never had any desire to build 6 string basses. But I still think one who holds down the bottom is worthy of camera time! ;)

I love you all.....

Roger
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This has to be one of my favorite all time TB posts. Go Roger!
 

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