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you can be sure. The P pickup adds a lot of 'weight' to the tone, much more thickness in the low mids.
What type of tone does the M5-24 have? I want to add another Sadowsky at some point in the near future. I am looking for something totally different than the UV70 and I think the M5-24 would easily give me something extra and different.
I would like to hear some sound samples or descriptions of tones.
-On another note. I want to thank Vic and everyone else about the eq settings. I got to play around with it at our NOVA GTG on Sunday and I have it boosted maybe 15%. Much better to my ears. Thanks all!!!
I would like to hear some sound samples or descriptions of tones.
-On another note. I want to thank Vic and everyone else about the eq settings. I got to play around with it at our NOVA GTG on Sunday and I have it boosted maybe 15%. Much better to my ears. Thanks all!!!
Have u ever heard an MTD? Take that tone and mix it with your Sadowsky and you'll have something like the Modern series.
The modern tone is all about midrange, but not a honky jaco type midrange. It has a punchy, piano like tone, with a very extended treble response. It does not have the lows or grit that the ultra vintage does.
Scott, I think I understand what you're trying to say, but I don't think this is the best way to get there.
Chris,
The Modern/24-Fret has a super strong mid presence and aggression that neither the MTD nor a Sadowsy J/PJ type bass will have... at least not emphasized nearly as much.
IMHO, it's better to compare it to other dual soap basses where both pickups are generally closer to the bridge... like a Smith, a Cirrus, etc. Now both of those have their own signature sounds, BUT, they all have something in common... they don't generally have a big pillowy low end to them like a J/PJ bass and they both have a LOT of bite in the mids. Very very mid forward. The high end is more sizzly up top with not a lot going on in the lower treble region, which is why they sound really great slapped (tho NOT J like), but for fingerstyle they sound a bit more subdued in the high end compared to the J/PJ basses.
IMHO, the MTD is really it's own thing, very big and wide sounding. Not really that much like a dual soap bridgey tone, and not really that much like a J either.
Where the Modern/24-Fret excels like no other is in aggression. You can cut through thicker mixes, with LESS power, with one of these beasts. Also due to the very tight/controlled low end, they do very well in boomy environments. BUT, don't try to get a J type sound out of it with EQ... ain't gonna' happen.
Hope this helps.
Sweeet!! Thanks Vic. I think that will be my next bass. I want something opposite of the UV70, but something that will also compliment it. Now, to figure out what color I want. I think I will go maple board though.
Thanks Fran. I have that natural ash/maple leaning like yourself, so good to hear from you.
Atrapp -- in terms of swapping pickups on the R5-24, I'm not sure I'd bother. The sound of those basses is defined by pickup placement, and I think any pickup you put in there is going to be a minor flavor shift. The Sadowsky pickups are really good. They can't be coil tapped.
It sounds like you'd like to get more of a "single coil" J tone out of the bass, and I just don't think its possible.
It sounds like you'd like to get more of a "single coil" J tone out of the bass, and I just don't think its possible.
you're welcome.
I'll be recording in the studio at the end of the month. I'll post some sound samplers.
Speaking to the sound of the M5-24, I'll pretty much echo Vic's sentiments. It really is it's own animal. Here are a coupla' samples of mine, running through my Epifani rig:
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For comparison, here are samples of my MTD's running through the same gear:
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I just recently added a VTC to my Sadowsky, and it's really made a difference. Some of the 'out of control' upper-mids have been tamed, and it really makes the bass more versatile. As Vic mentioned, comparing this bass to others is pretty tough. While I'd add Roscoe to the list of brands that, by default, place their soapbars with a bias toward the bridge, the only instrument that truly comes close to capturing the tone of the Sad M5-24 (IMO of course) is the Zon Sonus Custom/Special. My local store has this one in stock right now...
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...and it's fun doing an A/B with the M5-24 they also have in inventory. Lots of common ground, but still plenty of individual character in each instrument. Bottom line for me - there's nothing like an M5-24. And when you find the right one for you, it's truly something special. Personally, I'm still in the hunt for the ideal (for me) Sadowsky Jazz bass, but only as an addition to the arsenal. The M5 is an absolute keeper.
Link Removed - Alicia Keys tune at a wedding gig.
Link Removed - sound check jam on the U.S.S. Hornet.
Link Removed - loud outdoor party band gig over the summer.
For comparison, here are samples of my MTD's running through the same gear:
Link Removed - outdoor festival gig.
Link Removed - outdoor club gig.
I just recently added a VTC to my Sadowsky, and it's really made a difference. Some of the 'out of control' upper-mids have been tamed, and it really makes the bass more versatile. As Vic mentioned, comparing this bass to others is pretty tough. While I'd add Roscoe to the list of brands that, by default, place their soapbars with a bias toward the bridge, the only instrument that truly comes close to capturing the tone of the Sad M5-24 (IMO of course) is the Zon Sonus Custom/Special. My local store has this one in stock right now...
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...and it's fun doing an A/B with the M5-24 they also have in inventory. Lots of common ground, but still plenty of individual character in each instrument. Bottom line for me - there's nothing like an M5-24. And when you find the right one for you, it's truly something special. Personally, I'm still in the hunt for the ideal (for me) Sadowsky Jazz bass, but only as an addition to the arsenal. The M5 is an absolute keeper.
Wow! Thank you for the samples. That thing sounds great!!! I think that will be my next bass for sure. Great playing by the way!!!!
you're welcome.
I'll be recording in the studio at the end of the month. I'll post some sound samplers.
Looking forward to it!
I looked around thread 9 and found no answer... Could someone tell me the difference between black and blue label Sadowsky strings?
TIA,
TIA,
The tone on that 535 is AWESOME! What is the wood combo?
First time I love the MTD tone that much!
Here is an old clip from Ed Friedland :
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Also some more can be found here:
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=477274&highlight=friedland
