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Club Sandberg (part 2)



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Thanks. The Sandberg bridge is probably the least intuitive bridge and saddle system I've ever come across. This is the first bridge that didn't have micro-adjustments for intonation.

Holger talks about the thermal treatment and vibration treatment here in this seminar:

Will the torrification of the wood make it a better- or worse sounding instrument? In all likelihood it will change the sound. With brass instruments cryogenics supposedly does something different, changing the cellular structure of the metal. HOWEVER, with cryo, and I found that what it does is bring out the natural characteristics of the metal and thus the instrument. In my PERSONAL experience with cryo, I had a beautiful Yamaha trumpet that was a little on the bright side. After cryo, it did bring out its natural character... and in doing so made the instrument strident. I sold it shortly thereafter.

My second experience was with torrification. Some time ago I played two of the same Martin Acoustics side by side. One had their version of a torrified top (forget what they called it) and other did not. The non-torrified guitar sounded better to me.

Vibration? It might increase sustain, but won't change the tone all that much. I own a Tonerite device and put it on my two Taylors. 200 hours each. One was a brand new, out of the box 814ceDLX and the other was a 2011 614ce. The vibrations did improbe the 814 a bit but did nothing to the 614. These are of course hollow body acoustic guitars and the vibrations didn't have to penetrate and change much thickness of wood.

My Sandberg probably did not have these processes and sounds great and has sustain forever. Maybe it did, but i'm not sure. I'll have to ask. However, my other basses sound great and have really great sustain and did not undergo the processes. So, I'll remain a skeptic. At least for now.
 
Thanks. The Sandberg bridge is probably the least intuitive bridge and saddle system I've ever come across. This is the first bridge that didn't have micro-adjustments for intonation.


Will the torrification of the wood make it a better- or worse sounding instrument? In all likelihood it will change the sound. With brass instruments cryogenics supposedly does something different, changing the cellular structure of the metal. HOWEVER, with cryo, and I found that what it does is bring out the natural characteristics of the metal and thus the instrument. In my PERSONAL experience with cryo, I had a beautiful Yamaha trumpet that was a little on the bright side. After cryo, it did bring out its natural character... and in doing so made the instrument strident. I sold it shortly thereafter.

My second experience was with torrification. Some time ago I played two of the same Martin Acoustics side by side. One had their version of a torrified top (forget what they called it) and other did not. The non-torrified guitar sounded better to me.

Vibration? It might increase sustain, but won't change the tone all that much. I own a Tonerite device and put it on my two Taylors. 200 hours each. One was a brand new, out of the box 814ceDLX and the other was a 2011 614ce. The vibrations did improbe the 814 a bit but did nothing to the 614. These are of course hollow body acoustic guitars and the vibrations didn't have to penetrate and change much thickness of wood.

My Sandberg probably did not have these processes and sounds great and has sustain forever. Maybe it did, but i'm not sure. I'll have to ask. However, my other basses sound great and have really great sustain and did not undergo the processes. So, I'll remain a skeptic. At least for now.

I don't know about the vibration treatment, but from what I have read about torrification/roasting (whatever you call it), it removes the moisture, makes it less prone to seasonal movement, is more resonant, is stiffer and feels more like a vintage (aged) instrument. I don't know if that translates into better sound though.
 
I don't know about the vibration treatment, but from what I have read about torrification/roasting (whatever you call it), it removes the moisture, makes it less prone to seasonal movement, is more resonant, is stiffer and feels more like a vintage (aged) instrument. I don't know if that translates into better sound though.
In my brain I know all the benefits, but I just can't get used to the feel of torrefied maple.
 
Interesting. I know there are a lot of people that like the open pore feel of wenge. Are all roasted maple necks like that? Or just Sandbergs? They must be able to put a finish on it, no?
My Sandberg doesn't have an open pore feel on the neck, but definitely on the back of the body. My Ibanez BTB1825 has a grainy feel covered with gloss lacquer. But any bass or guitar that I own, gloss, satin, whatever always gets a once over with green scotchbrite. That scotchbrite pad changes everything.
 
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Ok. So I’ve tried to do a quick google search. And I apologize if I missed it. I used to own a VM4. I’m getting back into Sandberg and I’m down to 2 in question. And the obvious answer is to hold them both but the closest dealer is 6 hours away so I’m doing homework in advance.

I’m looking at a Panther Special and a Nighthawk Plus. Anybody owned or played both? Just getting ideas. Thanks in advance!
 
The stingrays are great. I've played Spectors, Charvels, and Sterling Ray 35s with roasted maple and I'm not a fan.

I tried a Stingray 5 Special at a local store and didn't notice anything particular and the feel of the roasted maple neck. Maybe it is something I just don't pay particular attention to unless it's extreme.

My all-time favourite neck finish (like the newer American Fenders and Lulls). So silky and smooth!
 
This beauty arrived today: active TT5 with roasted maple neck, swamp ash body and Sandberg Alnico 5 pickups. Colour is metallic black matte.
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Wow they really went for it on the roast. Beautiful paint choice too.

Would you mind posting a pic of the back of the neck if you get a chance?

Sure, here it is:
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congrats! fantastic looking bass.
do you mind sharing where you got it from and if it was a custom order?

cheers!

First I considered custom order, but the delivery time at the moment is about two years so I rejected that plan. Finally I found this one at BTM Guitars, Germany. Excellent customer service, I highly recommend them. BTM Guitars Nürnberg – Fachgeschäft für Gitarren und Bässe – Verkauf und Reparatur
 
Sure, here it is:
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First I considered custom order, but the delivery time at the moment is about two years so I rejected that plan. Finally I found this one at BTM Guitars, Germany. Excellent customer service, I highly recommend them. BTM Guitars Nürnberg – Fachgeschäft für Gitarren und Bässe – Verkauf und Reparatur

I bought a used blueburst TT5 last week from them, they provide a one-year warranty on used guitars, which is great, I think. I do not have it yet, my brother-in-law is bringing it when they come to visit. NBD, when it arrives in a couple of weeks.