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A tale of five Muffs... Well, seven in total, but five CMC Muffs...

Spent about an hour and a half comparing various Muffs on guitar and bass after dinner today. The main goal was to determine if I preferred SIL or LED settings, as well as my preferences for each on guitar and bass. Here's what I found:

Generally speaking, I used only two settings. This was to try and see the differences inherent in the pedals themselves. I only switched settings when toggling diodes, as I really liked the LED settings that I started with for all of my bass and guitar tones, and I was working on getting a tone that was similar to that in the mix with SIL. My tone goals were to be able to cut just a bit, have a solid and supportive low end, and be able to hear that my bass was dirty in the mix. The settings I started with for LED were volume at unity (right about noon), sustain at noon, Tone at 1:30, and Shape/Mids at max. When I engaged SIL, I found that all of the pedals got a boost of low end, more saturation, and became slightly muddier as a result. They also got considerably quieter, so I had to up the volume to about 2:00. To compensate for those changes, I also upped the Tone to around 3:00.

As a rule and regardless of pedal, I preferred LED to SIL in all settings. Each pedal reacted in pretty much the same way when being switched from LED to SIL. The extra clarity of LED was noticeable, and - especially on guitar - really helped with chords and single note runs. On bass, it seemed to keep the inherent tone of my bass, but with some bite and distortion to it. It was immediately present in the mix. On guitar, I found SIL to be too sludgy for my tastes. Not that it sounded bad, as I know there are plenty of people who would love that sludgy tone for doom, but for my doom tastes, I preferred more clarity. On bass, I found SIL to work just fine, though it deifnitely made the bass more of a "support" instrument, It didn't necessarily get lost in the mix, but it certainly didn't cut as much either. It would certainly work in all sorts of mixes, but I prefer a little bit more cut.

Now, on to pedal specifics:

Elk/Hizumitas - loose in all regards, both distortion-wise and in the low end. Most gainy, as well as the loudest by far. This was the only pedal that I never even got to 9:00 on the volume knob. Not a big fan of this as a rule, as it was a bit grainy and loose for me, but it is certainly a usable tone if you want a high gain Muff. I found myself enjoying it on guitar more than I had in the past.

Ram's Head - not as much bass as any of the others, but doesn't seem to cut bass either. A good, grainy tone, with some looseness in the distortion tone. Probably the most "vintage" sounding of the ones I have. Prefer it on guitar to bass since I like the extra lows of the Russian and Civil War varieties. I can see myself swapping this for the Civil War or Bubble Font Muffs on my guitar rig depending on needs.

Civil War - a bit bassier, but not a ton. Pretty even tone overall, but with plenty of bite and maybe a smidge extra treble. Not quite smooth, but not quite grainy - a nice middle ground. This is very distortion-y, as it's not loose in the lows or in the distortion "feel". It also has plenty of gain. Can definitely use this on guitar OR bass, though I have a slight preference for it on guitar over bass. I will likely investigate this one further on bass, as I might be able to get this to work better than the Tall Font on my secondary rig. We'll see. It's currently my #2 for guitar.

Bubble Font - my favorite of them all, for both guitar and bass. Just enough extra bass to give a little emphasis, but not overpower the treble content. Clear tone, and mostly smooth but with just a bit of gritty distortion. Saturates the lows just enough, but leaves them clear enough to not be mushy.

Tall Font - think Bubble Font, but a bit smoother and slightly bassier. More saturation in the lows, but also a hefty amount of lows overall. In the upper reaches of the tone control, it can get slightly harsh in the treble content. This is my current #2 for bass, as it adds a bit of bass emphasis that my 400RB-IV can't naturally reproduce. I also found I liked this on guitar more than I would have imagined given its bass-centric nature, and can certainly get sludgy like the Elk/Hizumitas, but nowhere near as gainy or biting.

I also compared these all to my previous go-to Muffs, the Pharaoh Supreme and Swollen Pickle. Here's what I found about those:

Pharaoh Supreme - same volume/tone changes when going from SIL to LED as described above, with the tone knob being used to adjust again. Overall, though, this was much more open in the lows on the SIL settings than any of the CMC offerings, and if I really wanted the tone of a silicon Muff, this would likely be the #1 contender as a result. Solid lows, present highs, just the right amount of grit and saturation, the only problem with the Pharaoh Supreme is that it's exactly what it advertises as, i.e. it's your amp but fuzzy. It doesn't jump out at you, and it's not super high gain or anything like that - it's a pretty neutral, if awesome fuzz with massive headroom that can be fed all sorts of ODs/distortions/boosts/etc. to liven it up. I use a lot of dirt pedals, so my amp settings are fairly neutral to work with various types of dirt. As a result, the Pharaoh doesn't cut as much as I'd like. Still, an absolutely landmark fuzz and easily one of the most versatile. If I HAD to use this, I'd probably just use my old DOD BiFET Boost to goose it with a bit more treble or gain. This is rightfully my "Old Faithful", as I know that I can always get a solid tone from this box.

Swollen Pickle - never been able to confirm, but I'm pretty sure the internal "Clip" knob blends between SIL and LED diodes. It's described as adjusting the clipping diodes to go from smooth (SIL?) to open (LED?) sustain in the distortion tone. Regardless, I usually end up somewhere in the 10:00-2:00 range. I got this to sound very similar to the various CMCs, with my goal being to replicate the Bubble Font. It was close, but I didn't have enough time to really adjust the internals, so that may happen tomorrow. As it stands, the "Clip" knob is at 11:00, which is giving me plenty of clear pick attack on the low notes. I quite like the attack on the higher notes, but I'd prefer smoother tones for the lows. I'll probably be able to fix that by lowering the "Clip" to around 9:00. Of course, that means I'll have to go outside of my usualy 10:00-2:00 parameters, but if there's a single thing the Swollen Pickle has taught me it's that patience is reward with this fuzz. Another fuzz that will never leave the collection, as I can always get a solid tone from it, and it's certainly livelier than the Pharaoh!



Alright, I think that's enough of my essay for the night. If you read it all, congrats! Hope you learned something, or became curious about something, or just wanted to play and see how far off I was in my descriptions. (Or maybe even were convinced to buy another CMC pedal, which I clearly should do as well...) Whatever it is, have a great night, and keep on jamming.
 
Hmmm interesting that you guys run tone at 12:30 or so - I always find that too compressed (mainly at band practice when I’m running straight into the PA)
But I guess running tone at 9 or so is far too dark…
Hmm if I didn’t rub out of room and add my new mxr m81 bass preamp I would have kept the tall font on there to explore more… the other option is taking off the kangra fuzz filter that I use for 10 seconds in a whole set. Hmmm more dirt or a filter I rarely use…hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
 
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Would love to hear your thoughts! Heard good things about the Mastotron for years, but never really looked into them. Any famous users, soundclips, or tones I should be aware of?
It's like what I remember the Mastotron sounded like. The additions are nice. I like the move away from the toggle switch for subs to control lows. Helps keep the low end content uniform with my normal tone.

Not sure about famous users. You can probably find 100+ youtube videos of bass players doing the "Time is Running Out" riff with a mammoth or mastotron. I think Alex James used a mammoth with blur during song 2 a few years back?
 
It's like what I remember the Mastotron sounded like. The additions are nice. I like the move away from the toggle switch for subs to control lows. Helps keep the low end content uniform with my normal tone.

Not sure about famous users. You can probably find 100+ youtube videos of bass players doing the "Time is Running Out" riff with a mammoth or mastotron. I think Alex James used a mammoth with blur during song 2 a few years back?
Yeah my clone is top jacks but with toggle switch… I found even on full it still sounded way more voices for guitar than bass in a mix though :(
Sounds good solo but got lost in my bands guitars 😞
 
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Yeah my clone is top jacks but with toggle switch… I found even on full it still sounded way more voices for guitar than bass in a mix though :(
Sounds good solo but got lost in my bands guitars 😞
I was worried about that. I'm digging the tone solo! But the more I listened, the more I got the feeling that the bass may be there, but that in the mix it may just sound like a clean bass tone, or disappear completely. I may end up getting his Mini and Sabbra Cadabra clones, and maybe the Triangle Muff too? I'm close to having all of his Muff clones, and they're each different enough tone-wise, user friendly, and just so darn good in general that I feel I could find uses for each of them on bass and/or guitar.

I've got my second Bubble Font coming tomorrow (his "Russian Muff" iteration before he separated the two, because I'm a completionist and I definitely need one for bass AND guitar...), but for now, I'm quite enjoying the Ram's Head on my guitar rig. It sounds pretty great, though I did have to alter from my "standard" settings on it. I've got it with Sustain about 10:30, Tone at 11:00, Shape/Mids still maxed, and on LED. Warm enough bass without drowning out lows, articulate enough, nice grainy distortion feel. Quite enjoying it, and my understanding is that the Triangle Muff is pretty close to it, but maybe a bit more scooped, and maybe slightly more distortion and slightly less bass? I still have plenty of travel on the tone, so a bit more gain could probably make up for treble loss by tweaking the tone lower...

With all of that in mind, anyone ever try any of the following CMC clones?

Triangle Muff (Probably more guitar oriented)
SS/BS Mini
Sabbra Cadabra (Definitely guitar oriented, and had an original way back when that I enjoyed. For this price, I figure it's probably worth grabbing.)
Op-Amp Muff (No idea about this one, but it's his only Muff without the Shape/Mids knob, instead having a switch. Can't say I know much about the Op-Amp Muff in general.)
 
I was worried about that. I'm digging the tone solo! But the more I listened, the more I got the feeling that the bass may be there, but that in the mix it may just sound like a clean bass tone, or disappear completely. I may end up getting his Mini and Sabbra Cadabra clones, and maybe the Triangle Muff too? I'm close to having all of his Muff clones, and they're each different enough tone-wise, user friendly, and just so darn good in general that I feel I could find uses for each of them on bass and/or guitar.

I've got my second Bubble Font coming tomorrow (his "Russian Muff" iteration before he separated the two, because I'm a completionist and I definitely need one for bass AND guitar...), but for now, I'm quite enjoying the Ram's Head on my guitar rig. It sounds pretty great, though I did have to alter from my "standard" settings on it. I've got it with Sustain about 10:30, Tone at 11:00, Shape/Mids still maxed, and on LED. Warm enough bass without drowning out lows, articulate enough, nice grainy distortion feel. Quite enjoying it, and my understanding is that the Triangle Muff is pretty close to it, but maybe a bit more scooped, and maybe slightly more distortion and slightly less bass? I still have plenty of travel on the tone, so a bit more gain could probably make up for treble loss by tweaking the tone lower...

With all of that in mind, anyone ever try any of the following CMC clones?

Triangle Muff (Probably more guitar oriented)
SS/BS Mini
Sabbra Cadabra (Definitely guitar oriented, and had an original way back when that I enjoyed. For this price, I figure it's probably worth grabbing.)
Op-Amp Muff (No idea about this one, but it's his only Muff without the Shape/Mids knob, instead having a switch. Can't say I know much about the Op-Amp Muff in general.)
From memory if the op amp muff is like the “tone wicker” ehx op amp, the op amp is kinda full bodied distortion “rattish” and the og switch basically removed the tone stack so no scoop at all. Kinda similar setup to the baby furnace although that was a gated fuzz.
 
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I'm considering the civil war and eventually flipping the ehx sovtek deluxe. Sounds great, but it's gargantuan. Maybe a musket as well. Always wanted to try one
I LOVE the Civil War. It's great on bass and guitar. It's got a bit more treble and dirt, so I usually run the tone just past noon instead of 1:30ish and the sustain around 10:30 on bass. On guitar, I keep the sustain around noon, but I feel I can get away with more dirt on guitar in general.

The Musket gets a lot of love here, but it was the darnedest thing for me. I could get an amazing tone solo from it. Absolutely loved it, and seemed like it would really cut the mix and support it with solid lows too. But every time I'd turn it on, it just sounded like a clean-ish, slightly clanky bass tone. A great clean-ish, slightly clanky bass tone that cut well (and actually reminded me of a fairly clean B3K sort of tone). Which isn't necessarily bad if that's what you want, but I like my bass to sound dirty in the mix too. I had a similar situation with the Blower Box Deluxe a few months ago. Both are solid pedals, but depending on what you want, may or may not work for you.
From memory if the op amp muff is like the “tone wicker” ehx op amp, the op amp is kinda full bodied distortion “rattish” and the og switch basically removed the tone stack so no scoop at all. Kinda similar setup to the baby furnace although that was a gated fuzz.
Dang it... A "Rattish" Muff? I also quite like Rats... How does the EHX version handle lows? That's always been my biggest issue with Rat pedals, and why I don't have more of them. The ones that handle lows how I like are often the fancy boutique ones, and I can't justify that much money! But for an $80 clone... Guess it's going on the list!

I know CMC now makes a Rat clone that covers the ProCo variants, as well as incorporating a low end clipping knob. Might be similar to the internal knobs on the Volt Thrower that control saturation of specific frequencies. It sounds interesting, but I'm very much happy with my Rats at the moment, and generally don't need as many of them since I don't use them on guitar, only bass. So the Rat clone is on the back burner. But if any of you grab it, I'd of course love to hear thoughts! If it can beat out my beloved Tremond, it would certainly free up some space on bass board #2. I'd be interested in putting it up against my Volt Thrower clone, because that pedal is simply the absolute best Rat I've ever played. I've tried dethroning it a few times, and it's always the best by a long shot. I'm not sure it can be beaten for my tone goals! But the Tremond gets close to matching it on rig #2!
 
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Got my "Russian Muff" yesterday, and was comparing it to my CMC Ram's Head. (This is for guitar, as I find the Ram's Head to be lacking in lows on bass.) Not sure which I prefer. The Ram's Head is gainier, and brighter so I set the sustain to about 10:30 and tone to about 11:00. But the "Russian" (same as his current Bubble Font) brings more bass overall, so I have to put the tone about 1:30. The tones are fairly similar, but the Ram's Head is more even across the spectrum as well as being a bit smoother. The Russian/Bubble Font has more low end naturally (tone is at 1:30), and is a bit more harsh in the treble with tone that high. But really, both Muffs are wonderful. I think the Ram's Head is a bit grainier and articulate and the Russian is bassier and smoother overall. Still, more alike than different. Just gotta choose which I want, and I'll probably get CMC's Triangle and Opamap varieties soon.

I also tried some Rats on my guitar rig. Nothing too much to report. I got both the Tremond and Pepperbox (Volt Thrower clone) to be very close, but both options were grainier than the original. The Tremond was much closer overall. But that being said, nothing beat out my FatMetal and Fat Sandwich) for Iommi-esque tones. Otherwise, they just messed with my tone. The Rats were about halfway between my fuzz and distortion pedals, and the Rats could do my fuzz pedal duties, and probably the other duties as well. But they didn't do anything different or better than the current members of the court.
 
The tones are fairly similar, but the Ram's Head is more even across the spectrum as well as being a bit smoother.

Some more observations after today's round of "Muff Madness" - I think I may have described the Ram's Head improperly. Smoother may not be the right term. It's chunkier in the distortion, if that makes sense. The Russians seem to have tighter grit, whereas the Ram's Head has looser grit. It's like sandpaper, where the Ram's Head would be 200 grit (coarse) and the Russians would be 800 grit (pretty fine!). The Ram's Head is definitely more even across the spectrum, and the Russians are naturally bassier. I think I meant smoother in that the Ram's Head doesn't have the aggressive treble response in the dirt, but it still has plenty of treble. I tried the Ram's Head on bass again, just because it was really sounding great for me on guitar. Still not loving it on bass, but it was better than I remembered, and certainly usable for older "vintage" style bass tones if needed. But on guitar, I'm quite enjoying the Ram's Head, and it's giving my Bubble Font a run for its money. We'll see which wins. I'll try to do a Bubble Font/Civil War/Ram's Head shoot out this weekend and see what happens.
I think the Ram's Head is a bit grainier and articulate and the Russian is bassier and smoother overall. Still, more alike than different. Just gotta choose which I want, and I'll probably get CMC's Triangle and Opamap varieties soon.
Given how much I'm enjoying the Ram's Head, and it's closest to the Triangle, I'm definitely getting the Triangle. Also the Mini, just because I've always wanted one, and so far all of the Muffs have delivered. Just placed the order for both! I should have them by the end of October, but judging by the previous purchases I've made from CMC, I'll likely have them in mid-October at the latest. I'll report back when I get them!
 
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Can you do an in-depth comparison of Civil War VS Bubble Font on bass? :)
I actually ended up with some time tonight, so here goes!

Unless otherwise noted, all of these settings are using the LED clipping diodes. I prefer them to SIL for the added clarity, though they do not saturate as much as SIL. Settings were typically Sustain at noon, Tone 1:30, Shape at max, volume at unity. When adjusting, I also ended up comparing them with Sustain at 10:30, tone at noon (or 1:30), and Shape 3:00. There were no real surprise "sweet spots" between settings - each knob functions exactly as you'd expect with the accompanying changes in tone. I prefer the first settings mentioned, but there is no reason why I couldn't also do the second. They just weren't what I preferred. I could get closer to each Muff's tone on a single pedal by adjusting the various knobs to try and mimic the next Muff, but at identical settings, each was certainly identifiable, though clearly in the same family.

The Civil War is less bassy - not that it loses lows, but doesn't seem to emphasize/add lows as much as the Bubble Font does. Maybe a slight bump in the lows, but nothing extreme. They are both fairly full range (the Civil War likely a bit more so and the Bubble Font slightly scooped in comparison), but I'd say the Civil War is probably a bit grainier, brighter, and more aggressive overall, and the Bubble Font is smoother, less bright, and less aggressive. At the higher end of the tone knob (roughly 3:00 or more), the Bubble Font can match some of the aggressiveness of the Civil War (but not as aggressive as the Civil War), but it also gets too harsh in the treble for my taste at that point. I feel like the Civil War would be better suited to mid to higher gain applications and the Bubble Font to lower to mid gain applications. The Civil War is ALWAYS somewhat aggressive, but the Bubble Font can do low gain, milder, and smoother tones. This is why I like it so much - I can get it to be smooth and bassy enough in the lows with just enough treble and bite in the highs to cut. It's fantastic! Overall, for the tones I'm going for, the Bubble Font is my winner. Both are articulate enough, and I could 100% use either for bass, but I have a slight preference for the Bubble Font.

If memory serves, you prefer SIL diodes, yes? If I really wanted the extra saturation that SIL offers, I may actually end up preferring the Civil War for that. My main concern with SIL diodes is that it reduces the dynamics and articulation a good deal versus the LED settings, and I want the extra articulation. However, because of the extra aggression and brightness the Civil War has over the Bubble Font, I prefer it to the Bubble Font when using SIL diodes. All the other descriptors used previously remain the same, but Bubble Font is no longer as articulate as I'd prefer on SIL settings.

If you're looking for input on Germanium settings, I'm decidedly NOT your man. I've never found any fuzz to do anything I enjoy using Germanium diodes. Just not my thing. I'll just leave it at that, since clearly some people must like them for some reason since there are plenty out there, I'm just not one of them.

I also did the Tall Font while I had it all hooked up. If you're interested in the Tall Font, it's the same basic idea as the Bubble Font, but each descriptor pushed a bit further when compared to the Civil War. More bass boost, lower gain, more scoop, smoother, not as aggressive, and harsher in the highs when the tone gets high. Those are the basic differences between the three Russian varieties, really - gain, scoop, smoothness in the lows, and harshness in the highs. Each of them just different enough from the other, but also very much in the same realm. And all of the previously mentioned scenarios stay true when using SIL diodes as well.

With the subtle differences in my amps, they each get used on a different amp, with the Bubble Font currently on my #1 rigs for bass and guitar. Though I'll also do some comparisons between the Bubble Font and Ram's Head at volume on guitar too, as I'm digging the Ram's Head at the moment. It's still somewhat aggressive and balanced pretty well tonally, but doesn't have the extra lows of the Russian varieties. I think the lows are just unaffected, really. It's a bit more "vintage" sounding in the distortion as well, with less harshness and more traditional warm and fuzzy (but still articulate) tones compared to the others.

Hope that helps! (I'll try to do some guitar comparisons this weekend.)
 
I actually ended up with some time tonight, so here goes!

Unless otherwise noted, all of these settings are using the LED clipping diodes. I prefer them to SIL for the added clarity, though they do not saturate as much as SIL. Settings were typically Sustain at noon, Tone 1:30, Shape at max, volume at unity. When adjusting, I also ended up comparing them with Sustain at 10:30, tone at noon (or 1:30), and Shape 3:00. There were no real surprise "sweet spots" between settings - each knob functions exactly as you'd expect with the accompanying changes in tone. I prefer the first settings mentioned, but there is no reason why I couldn't also do the second. They just weren't what I preferred. I could get closer to each Muff's tone on a single pedal by adjusting the various knobs to try and mimic the next Muff, but at identical settings, each was certainly identifiable, though clearly in the same family.

The Civil War is less bassy - not that it loses lows, but doesn't seem to emphasize/add lows as much as the Bubble Font does. Maybe a slight bump in the lows, but nothing extreme. They are both fairly full range (the Civil War likely a bit more so and the Bubble Font slightly scooped in comparison), but I'd say the Civil War is probably a bit grainier, brighter, and more aggressive overall, and the Bubble Font is smoother, less bright, and less aggressive. At the higher end of the tone knob (roughly 3:00 or more), the Bubble Font can match some of the aggressiveness of the Civil War (but not as aggressive as the Civil War), but it also gets too harsh in the treble for my taste at that point. I feel like the Civil War would be better suited to mid to higher gain applications and the Bubble Font to lower to mid gain applications. The Civil War is ALWAYS somewhat aggressive, but the Bubble Font can do low gain, milder, and smoother tones. This is why I like it so much - I can get it to be smooth and bassy enough in the lows with just enough treble and bite in the highs to cut. It's fantastic! Overall, for the tones I'm going for, the Bubble Font is my winner. Both are articulate enough, and I could 100% use either for bass, but I have a slight preference for the Bubble Font.

If memory serves, you prefer SIL diodes, yes? If I really wanted the extra saturation that SIL offers, I may actually end up preferring the Civil War for that. My main concern with SIL diodes is that it reduces the dynamics and articulation a good deal versus the LED settings, and I want the extra articulation. However, because of the extra aggression and brightness the Civil War has over the Bubble Font, I prefer it to the Bubble Font when using SIL diodes. All the other descriptors used previously remain the same, but Bubble Font is no longer as articulate as I'd prefer on SIL settings.

If you're looking for input on Germanium settings, I'm decidedly NOT your man. I've never found any fuzz to do anything I enjoy using Germanium diodes. Just not my thing. I'll just leave it at that, since clearly some people must like them for some reason since there are plenty out there, I'm just not one of them.

I also did the Tall Font while I had it all hooked up. If you're interested in the Tall Font, it's the same basic idea as the Bubble Font, but each descriptor pushed a bit further when compared to the Civil War. More bass boost, lower gain, more scoop, smoother, not as aggressive, and harsher in the highs when the tone gets high. Those are the basic differences between the three Russian varieties, really - gain, scoop, smoothness in the lows, and harshness in the highs. Each of them just different enough from the other, but also very much in the same realm. And all of the previously mentioned scenarios stay true when using SIL diodes as well.

With the subtle differences in my amps, they each get used on a different amp, with the Bubble Font currently on my #1 rigs for bass and guitar. Though I'll also do some comparisons between the Bubble Font and Ram's Head at volume on guitar too, as I'm digging the Ram's Head at the moment. It's still somewhat aggressive and balanced pretty well tonally, but doesn't have the extra lows of the Russian varieties. I think the lows are just unaffected, really. It's a bit more "vintage" sounding in the distortion as well, with less harshness and more traditional warm and fuzzy (but still articulate) tones compared to the others.

Hope that helps! (I'll try to do some guitar comparisons this weekend.)
To further describe the differences between Civil War and Bubble Font - the Civil War seems more compressed and in your face than the Bubble Font, which is itself more compressed and in your face than the Tall Font. This is often what I meant when saying the Civil War was "aggressive".
 
To further describe the differences between Civil War and Bubble Font - the Civil War seems more compressed and in your face than the Bubble Font, which is itself more compressed and in your face than the Tall Font. This is often what I meant when saying the Civil War was "aggressive".
That’s good to know and happy I chose the tall font… played through my amp seems fine but played through a full range PA at some tone knob settings my ehx green Russian was pretty compressed.
Will have to try the tall font at next band practice! Hoping that’s next week
 
That’s good to know and happy I chose the tall font… played through my amp seems fine but played through a full range PA at some tone knob settings my ehx green Russian was pretty compressed.
Will have to try the tall font at next band practice! Hoping that’s next week
I'm not sure the EHX Green Russian is an exact clone of any specific Russian variety, and those all varied within their own production periods anyway. My ears (and memory) tell me that the EHX Green Russian is closer to a Tall Font than a Bubble Font. I only had an EHX Reissue for a few months, and never played it much. It was super similar to my Russian Pickle (of course!), but I preferred the Russian Pickle as it seemed to be ever so slightly less bass-focused and therefore more articulate. However, I'm really splitting hairs, and either way, they both had a harshness in the treble that was required for me to cut the mix - usually around 3:00. It could very well be that the mids knobs on the CMCs made it so that I can use lower tone settings on the knobs and avoid that harshness while maintaining clarity. All I know is that the EHX Green Russian seemed ever so slightly bassier and less articulate than the Russian Pickle, so the Russian Pickle won for me. But now, both are gone in favor of the CMC Russians, Swollen Pickle, and Pharaoh Supreme.

Back to the topic of compression - they can ALL get pretty compressed. I briefly tried some guitar playing on the Civil War with the Sustain around 3:00 - way too much compression for me, and I like dirtier guitar than bass. Not even going to try that much on bass. Sounded too distorted what with all the extra mids and highs I had it set for. Might work better with those tweaked, but it clearly wasn't a tone I was interested in, so I didn't pursue that. I've had similar experiences with the Bubble and Tall Fonts.

If you're focused on the compression aspect, of the five CMCs I own, this is the ranking of least to most compressed according to my ears. (Which may or may not be 100% reliable.)

Tall Font -> Bubble Font -> Ram's Head -> Civil War -> Elk/Hizumitas

The Ram's Head and Civil War are close compression-wise, but the feel of the distorted tones is quite different, as well as the various other tone differences.
 
Some more bass playing today - I think I've settled on lower gain and Shape settings for now on the Bubble Font. Sustain is now at 10:30, with Shape at 4:00ish. Still plenty of cut, but a bit more "natural" (as far as Muffs go) tone in the mix. I think I'll do the same on guitar with my Civil War and "Green Russian" (aka Bubble Font), but time will tell. The Tall Font on bass went to 3:00 on Shape, since it's got a harsher distortion tone. Not a huge tone difference, but enough for me to notice, while still filling out and cutting the mix just enough. Love these pedals, and can't wait to try the Triangle Muff and SS/BS Mini clones when they arrive!
 
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Some more bass playing today - I think I've settled on lower gain and Shape settings for now on the Bubble Font. Sustain is now at 10:30, with Shape at 4:00ish. Still plenty of cut, but a bit more "natural" (as far as Muffs go) tone in the mix. I think I'll do the same on guitar with my Civil War and "Green Russian" (aka Bubble Font), but time will tell. The Tall Font on bass went to 3:00 on Shape, since it's got a harsher distortion tone. Not a huge tone difference, but enough for me to notice, while still filling out and cutting the mix just enough. Love these pedals, and can't wait to try the Triangle Muff and SS/BS Mini clones when they arrive!
Got some more time to play today, and these settings weren't doing it for me. They weren't cutting quite enough with the lower mids, and yet the tone was slightly harsher than I'd like in the treble. So I ended up maxing the mids again, but compensating for the extra cut that way by reducing tone to about 1:00. That was the ticket! I'll have to try this with the other Muffs/rigs, but for now, this is the winning combo on my Bubble Font and 700RB-II.

So the settings were:
Volume - Unity
Sustain - 10:30
Tone - 1:00
Shape - Max
Diodes - LED
 
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