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Double Bass Combo Amp for Upright

#22
@gna since you mentioned Guitar Center and Markbass, I recently got the new Mini CMD 121. It's 27 lbs., 12" speaker, 300 watts @ 8 ohms. I've gigged with it 6 times in the past couple weeks including tonight. It seems to have a responsive EQ and the Old School Knob is fun to mess with. I don't know what your style is, how often you gig, etc., but I hear you loud and clear about not wanting to lug stuff (heavier & bigger amps). I like it either on an amp stand or tilted upward versus sitting coupled to the floor (for upright bass). I had it flat on the stage at first tonight, then put an empty can that I laid on its side to tilt the amp upward. This helped a lot in this particular outdoor stage environment. All the best in your quest!
 
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gna said:
All right, I'm thinking it might be time to upgrade my gear. I see some very nice light combo amps available. I ain't getting any younger, and hauling around my upright and a 50-some pound amp is a pain. Even my small amp is 35 pounds. My research shows the GR Bass AT 110 and Traynor SB110 mentioned as possibilities. Golihur also carries the Trace Elliot ELF 110 as a more budget-friendly option. I am not playing in loud groups or big rooms, and oftentimes there's a PA where I gig.

Anyone play upright through the Trace Elliot ELF 110 or Traynor SB110, and do you recommend? Or should I save my pennies for the GR Bass AT 110, or even the Golihur Genzler Acoustic Array Pro?
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I love my GR AT 500 Cube for upright. I'll bet the Acoustic version is better, but mine 18-pound baby has become pretty much the only amp I use these days. The sound is more than adequate, the DI is excellent, and (did I say it?) it weighs only 18 pounds!
 
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gna said:
All right, I'm thinking it might be time to upgrade my gear. I see some very nice light combo amps available. I ain't getting any younger, and hauling around my upright and a 50-some pound amp is a pain. Even my small amp is 35 pounds. My research shows the GR Bass AT 110 and Traynor SB110 mentioned as possibilities. Golihur also carries the Trace Elliot ELF 110 as a more budget-friendly option. I am not playing in loud groups or big rooms, and oftentimes there's a PA where I gig.

Anyone play upright through the Trace Elliot ELF 110 or Traynor SB110, and do you recommend? Or should I save my pennies for the GR Bass AT 110, or even the Golihur Genzler Acoustic Array Pro?
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I would get the Traynor SB 106 over SB 110 (I have one myself), although they are both quite good IMHO of course. I also have a Markbass combo, which works for me.
 
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Bander said:
Everse 8? I have one, and will try it. It is amazing, just hadn't thought of using it for an upright.
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My trick is in the presets, at least for my type of bass:
  • channel 2 input = Hi-Z
  • "Percussion" (!) channel preset
  • "Live" speaker preset
  • "Kickback" speaker preset
This preset combination apparently includes HPF which will just filter everything that's doesn't work very well with an upright, probably somewhere around 80 Hz (just my guess). Whereas the "Bass Guitar" preset and the "Music" or "Tripod" modes make my bass sound "too bass heavy" for my taste.
Then I just roll off some treble on the channel EQ to my liking. And there are still two more EQ stages to fine adjust if necessary, the Master EQ being switchable between a simple 7-band graphic and a 7-band (!) parametric. It can't get more surgical than that.
Also, the anti-feedback filter is on.
It's also got an XLR out which is pre-speaker 3-band EQ and pre-speaker presets, i.e. you can use the latter to fine tune the Everse as your personal monitor without affecting the XLR-out signal.

(Speaking of which, meanwhile, in our new rehearsal room, the good ole SWR went to the storage cabinet and now I'm using the Everse only, with XLR-out going to my old Tascam analog mixer for if we want to do some quick demo recordings.)
 
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bassmanbrent said:
So you're going straight into the Everse 8? No preamp?
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Exactly. As noted on the previous page, I'm using the simple KNA/Gewa DB-1 piezo. It's on the bass side of the bridge.

That said, I was also using the Everse with a Tech21 QStrip as a "preamp" plugged into channel 1 which has 48V phantom power because I needed the channel 2 Hi-Z input for another instrument. Works either way.
Heck, a few times while we were busking last year I even plugged the upright directly into channel 3/4 which is just a stereo minijack line-in (!) because we needed channels 1&2 for two mics. Even that did work well enough for the given scenario… :)

In other words, the Everse is very flexible to set up. You just may want to take some time to experiment and to find the right balance for each instrument or mic you plug in. Then you can also save a couple of user presets as starting points.
 
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loukash said:
My trick is in the presets, at least for my type of bass:
  • channel 2 input = Hi-Z
  • "Percussion" (!) channel preset
  • "Live" speaker preset
  • "Kickback" speaker preset
This preset combination apparently includes HPF which will just filter everything that's doesn't work very well with an upright, probably somewhere around 80 Hz (just my guess). Whereas the "Bass Guitar" preset and the "Music" or "Tripod" modes make my bass sound "too bass heavy" for my taste.
Then I just roll off some treble on the channel EQ to my liking. And there are still two more EQ stages to fine adjust if necessary, the Master EQ being switchable between a simple 7-band graphic and a 7-band (!) parametric. It can't get more surgical than that.
Also, the anti-feedback filter is on.
It's also got an XLR out which is pre-speaker 3-band EQ and pre-speaker presets, i.e. you can use the latter to fine tune the Everse as your personal monitor without affecting the XLR-out signal.

(Speaking of which, meanwhile, in our new rehearsal room, the good ole SWR went to the storage cabinet and now I'm using the Everse only, with XLR-out going to my old Tascam analog mixer for if we want to do some quick demo recordings.)
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Embarrassingly, I wasn't aware it had this level of processing. After a recent gig, Im thinking of adding a second one. Can't wait to dig into your formula, and the rest of the processing - I play other instruments too.
 
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Bander said:
Can't wait to dig into your formula, and the rest of the processing
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If you don't have it yet, make sure to install the accompanying EV app on your phone or iPad. Even though all functions are available on the speaker via the small display (which I also consider well designed, in fact), the remote app editing is way more comfortable because you can do that easily from distance.
 
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loukash said:
If you don't have it yet, make sure to install the accompanying EV app on your phone or iPad. Even though all functions are available on the speaker via the small display (which I also consider well designed, in fact), the remote app editing is way more comfortable because you can do that easily from distance.
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I do, but must have scanned too quickly. Ill look more closely!
 

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