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#22
Yeah once you try it you'll never want to go back. It really is frustrating at work because my home pc has all the cool new techs out there (sata, c2d, pci-x, ddr2) come to work and I'm running virtual studio and photoshop on a standard IBM. I thinking about buying another pc just for work, or trying to get them to buy me one. Thats probably the better option.
 
#27
There is serious diminishing returns after 2 gigs of ram going to a 4 gig machine. Its really not worth it. If you're running a server thats acting as a front-end for sure 4 gigs may come in handy. But normally 4 gigs is overkill at this point in time.

Photoshop = bitmap images (photographs, scans, coloring)
Illustrator = vector images (line art, font)
Pagemaker = layouts (putting it all together)

Do they still use pagemaker though? I thought inDesign was Adobe's layout tool?
 
#28
Warning this information is from Wikipedia, the source of all wrong information ever perpetuated throughout the internet. So you never know:

PageMaker was the first desktop publishing program, introduced in 1985 by Aldus Corporation[1], initially for the Apple Macintosh but soon after also for the PC. It relies on Adobe Systems' PostScript page description language. In 1994 Aldus and PageMaker were acquired by Adobe Systems. The current version is PageMaker 7.0, released July 9, 2001, though updates have been released for the two supported platforms since. PageMaker was awarded a SPA Excellence in Software Award for Best New Use of a Computer in 1986.

Many of the graphical user interface (GUI) elements pioneered in the program have since migrated to the rest of the Adobe suite. Adobe has positioned PageMaker to compete more for the small business market, with Adobe InDesign aimed at the high end, professional designer. PageMaker's feature set is well suited for publications such as corporate newsletters and the straight-news sections of newspapers, but for layouts that need a more complex design, such as magazines or the feature sections of newspapers, it may take much longer to accomplish the task in PageMaker than it would in InDesign or QuarkXPress, if the desired results are possible at all.

While PageMaker is less powerful than InDesign or QuarkXPress, it is simpler to learn than those two packages and yet more powerful than Microsoft Publisher. It is not uncommon for schools that teach page layout to first teach their students PageMaker to get them comfortable with the concepts of desktop publishing, then move them on to QuarkXPress or InDesign.

In 2004, Adobe had announce the ending in development of Adobe PageMaker but will continue to sell and support it. InDesign is seen as the successor product[2].
 
#29
louieeadg said:
Alright, Photoshop (I'm guessing that's adobe?). So what's the difference between adobe pagemaker and illustrator?
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Illustrator is a great app too. I find it a bit much for layouts... I prefer to create art in PS or Illustrator (or Freehand) and import into Pagemaker. InDesign and Quark are a step up from Pagemaker... but single page to trifolds to CD art, I still prefer PM. It could be the fact I learned on it too.

http://www.adobe.com/products/pagemaker/
Adobe Pagemaker 7

Business publishing made easy

Adobe® PageMaker® 7.0 software is the ideal page layout program for business, education, and small- and home-office professionals who want to create high-quality publications such as brochures and newsletters. Get started quickly with templates, graphics, and intuitive design tools; work productively across Adobe applications; and easily leverage existing content to create customized communications.
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http://www.adobe.com/products/illustrator/
Adobe® Illustrator® CS3 software allows you to create sophisticated artwork for virtually any medium. Industry-standard drawing tools, flexible color controls, and professional type controls help you capture your ideas and experiment freely, while timesaving features such as easier-to-access options let you work quickly and intuitively. Improved performance and tight integration with other Adobe applications also help you produce extraordinary graphics for print, web and interactive, and mobile and motion designs.
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Adobe® Photoshop® CS3 software accelerates your path from imagination to imagery. Ideal for photographers, graphic designers, and web designers, the professional standard delivers new features such as automatic layer alignment and blending that enable advanced compositing. Live filters boost the comprehensive, nondestructive editing toolset for increased flexibility. And a streamlined interface and new timesaving tools make your work flow faster.
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#30
KoskoArts said:
Warning this information is from Wikipedia, the source of all wrong information ever perpetuated throughout the internet. So you never know:
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sounds right... InDesign was meant to be the Quark killer. I beta tested it and still have my installer disks and upgrades for version 1.0

Quark was still just better for pagination beyond single page art. With InDesign aimed at that... the simpler Pagemaker works better (for me) for little stuff like ads, flyers, labels, etc
 
#33
So for what I'm doing, i.e. labels, a brochure here and there, new product pamphlets, etc., photoshop and pagemaker would be my best bet. And making sure my pc has a good graphics card...she's willing to get the programs and such but I'm not sure about the computer...probably an upgrade if I need it but I'm not sure what this thing has on it anyway, I inheirited it from the last guy...
 
#35
KoskoArts said:
I have used photoshop on work computers before though that only had onboard graphics and it does still work. Just make sure the machine is clean and smooth running. Running it on machine bogged down by adware spyware etc, too many programs, a million programs running isn't going to run well. Let your machine dedicate its computing power to photoshop while you are running it and it should be fine. It doesn't hurt to save often though, thats for sure.
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+1

The computer you use to do the designing on should be used for only that purpose. you may want to look into a multi monitor arrangement
 
#37
MJ5150 said:
Use a pen and paper, then scan your drawing on to your PC.

-Mike
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I believe this is how most comic books are done these days, possibly inking before scanning. The coloring these days done with tablets is phenomenal, a lot more room for a correction on a screw up. Fast! too is a huge thing. Take a look at most webcomics, for instance Penny Arcade. There's some really great vids of the inking and coloring of Boba Fet in photoshop on top of a pencil scan.
 
#38
I''m not going to get into the illustrator/pagemaker debate (good advice above), but I will throw in with "DON'T USE PHOTOSHOP FOR LAYOUT".

This is a pet peave.... Photoshop is great for editing pixmaps, but so many people try and use it for layout, and it always produces bad results.

And to the guy who thought photoshop was tricky - try illustrator. An Illustrator training course is something to go in the budget.

Ian
 

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