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Considering vegetarianism

#41
I chewed my last piece of meat in 1968, and can only recommend vegetarianism. Here in 2015 I have no health issues and am not overweight, even though I like my beer as much as the next guy, smoke a lot and don't do any exercise other than daily walking by necessity. I'm not too ideological about it and won't go full vegan, since I find things like organic honey and yoghurt/kefir are beneficial, and producing them does not hurt the animals.
 
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#42
Have been vegetarian in the past, but my body missed the meat protein and asked for it back. For the past 25 years I've been what my family cals a "Chicketurkian" who also occasionally eats fish when the mood strikes. The real reason I ended up not going back to beef and pork has nothing to do with any philosophical reasons at all - I just find it difficult to digest compared to fowl and fish.

As far as weight loss, I don't advise hardcore anything. Slow and steady wins the race. With 2 bad knees after a bunch of procedures on both, sometimes the need to drop a few pounds becomes apparent. For me, its about limiting carbs - especially bread and pasta - and avoiding dairy and deep fried foods. I eat meat once a day at dinner time. For breakfast it's a 2 egg omelet, for lunch raw veggies and hummus with an apple on the side, and for dinner whatever I like while avoiding the stuff i mentioned above for the most part. It's ok to splurge every once in a while. For exercise, whatever you can do regularly/daily is best - I've settled on 30 minutes on the elliptical and 100 pushups in the morning before leaving for work (been doing the elliptical bit for about a decade now, the other part varies), and it just seems like the normal start to the day at this point. Only a few pounds away from the target at this point, and my knees thank me. Good luck!
 
#43
I've been a vege since Xmas/New Years of 2003. I'm perfectly healthy, don't miss eating meat and never have. Have absolutely no desire to ever do it again. For a couple years before I went meat free I'd eaten less and less of it.
What happened was that I got sick, almost got dead, then got better. Afterwards just the smell of meat cooking would make me physically ill. Not so anymore, but still have no desire to eat it.
Just watch what you eat. Make sure you get enough protein, vitamins. Try as much as possible to stay away from processed foods, an almost impossibility in this day and age. If you don't know how, learn to cook. You don't have to become a gourmet cook, just be able to cook real meals for yourself. You should do this even if you eat a diet including meat stuffs.
Don't become one of the people running around yelling at people, decrying their food choices, thinking you're better or on a higher plane of existence because you decided to remove meat from your diet.
Running around telling people that "Milk is murder!" won't win you any new friends and will probably result in old ones becoming former friends.

There is absolutely no reason why a person that is a vege can't be as healthy as a person who eats meat. And will probably be much healthier than people who eat an over abundance of meat and eschew fruits and veggies as taking up room where more steak can stuffed.
 
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MJ5150 said:
I don't like it, or anything else that lives in the water. Never have, even when I was eating pork, beef, and chicken all the time.

-Mike
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Wow finally someone else like me! I have never liked any water living creature to ingest, there really gross to me both in appearance, texture and taste. Any seafood and any fish I wont eat, just anything from the water both salt or fresh. I think the last water dwelling creature I ate was when I was 10 or younger, I think 3rd grade and I threw it up.

Of course I come from a family with 2 professional fishermen where 35 pound+ salmon is given among family all the time.
 
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A-Step-Towards said:
Wow finally someone else like me! I have never liked any water living creature to ingest, there really gross to me both in appearance, texture and taste. Any seafood and any fish I wont eat, just anything from the water both salt or fresh.
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Brother!!!!

When we lived in New Hampshire, my wife and I went to the coast of Maine so she could get some fresh lobster. She convinced me to order lobster mac 'n cheese, and to just pick out the pieces of lobster. I obliged, but when the dish arrived, it was so full of lobster that I sent it back. The manager came out to tell me they have never had someone send back the lobster mac 'n cheese for having too much lobster. :D

-Mike
 
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MJ5150 said:
Brother!!!!

When we lived in New Hampshire, my wife and I went to the coast of Maine so she could get some fresh lobster. She convinced me to order lobster mac 'n cheese, and to just pick out the pieces of lobster. I obliged, but when the dish arrived, it was so full of lobster that I sent it back. The manager came out to tell me they have never had someone send back the lobster mac 'n cheese for having too much lobster. :D

-Mike
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Oh man I have a similar story but with a tuna pasta dish. I will always be that guy at the seafood restaurant ordering a grilled cheese and fries, or anything without seafood :D
 
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A-Step-Towards said:
Wow finally someone else like me! I have never liked any water living creature to ingest, there really gross to me both in appearance, texture and taste. Any seafood and any fish I wont eat, just anything from the water both salt or fresh. I think the last water dwelling creature I ate was when I was 10 or younger, I think 3rd grade and I threw it up.

Of course I come from a family with 2 professional fishermen where 35 pound+ salmon is given among family all the time.
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I love anything prawn shaped - lobster, langoustines, prawns of all sizes - and I will also eat scallops. I don't eat anything else that has come out of the sea though.
 
#53
Though it may be trendy to argue that our physiology is not suited to a carnivorous diet, the truth of the matter is quite different.
With respect to other related adaptations (smaller jaw, smaller / weaker muscle attachments to skull, etc), humans are unique with respect to other primates.

This TED Video pretty much nails it - - -

What is so special about the human brain?
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The key to our amazing brain size is [drum roll] cooking - which is also our bane - the source of our obesity.

But 100% unprocessed raw food diet is probably not possible and may be contrasurvival, in that it would be impractical to acquire all needed calories each day.
 
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Can someone explain to me the logic behind not eating fish, or taking it completely out of one's diet?
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For some folks, it's a cruelty issue. For others, it's environmental and species survival. And still others say it's unhealthy, even unsafe. For me, I just think it's unnecessary. There are plenty of options with a plant-based diet.
 
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cdef said:
I chewed my last piece of meat in 1968, and can only recommend vegetarianism. Here in 2015 I have no health issues and am not overweight, even though I like my beer as much as the next guy, smoke a lot and don't do any exercise other than daily walking by necessity. I'm not too ideological about it and won't go full vegan, since I find things like organic honey and yoghurt/kefir are beneficial, and producing them does not hurt the animals.
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So you are vegetarian for health reasons and you smoke? I'm sticking to my vegan beans with meat, with or without beans.
 
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I am not sure arguing from what we did several hundred thousand years ago is particularly valid, else we'd also suggest that people gave up living in houses, using cars; and definitely no internet or playing bass.
 
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Stevorebob said:
For some folks, it's a cruelty issue. For others, it's environmental and species survival. And still others say it's unhealthy, even unsafe. For me, I just think it's unnecessary. There are plenty of options with a plant-based diet.
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This argument I would say is mostly correct for meat. But for fish, come on. Environmental issues aren't really a concern if you eat fish like mackerel or saury pikes as they are treated like garbage fish and even used as bait in some places. Also, the people with the longest life spans (Japanese) eat a steady diet of seafood, doesn't seem to hurt them one bit. ;) As long as you don't eat the top of the pack fish like tuna, there is ABSOLUTELY NO scientific evidence that eating fish is bad. There is only evidence to the contrary that says fish is in fact good for you.

Overall, those are pretty bad argument's for not eating seafood in general.

Edit: Could you point out some articles that say fish/seafood is unhealthy for you? Don't point me articles of tuna containing mercury, because I already know and avoid top of the pack fish like I mentioned above.
 
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MJ5150 said:
If one does not care for the taste or texture of a food item, the logical thing to do is not eat it.

-Mike
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Maybe I should have worded it better, but what I am asking is why someone would forcefully remove fish (which is good for you) out of one's diet in the sake of vegetarianism. (Given that they like the taste of fish.) What is the logic behind this, besides being able to say your a vegetarian.
 

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