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Double Bass Country Bass Walk

if they had an endorsement, i think Epi would have been willing to do custom one off finishes. especially for Ernest Tubb, he was such a well loved personality......i did get to shake his hand once! his road band was the swingin'est as well.:)

Sorry to break in but just a tidbit that may be of minor interest.
My first good wood (carved) German bass was purchased for me by my father in 1960. He bought it for $25 from a friend of his (I don't recall his name) who had used it with Ernest Tubb. The guy said he brought it back from Italy after the war. At the time, I was just beginning and was renting a blonde Epiphone that I was renting from Ted's Music in Baltimore. The bass is unplayable now (a long boring story) and is standing in the corner of my barn. I've never had the heart to get rid of it. It played beautifully and served me for many years.
 
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old basses make great bookshelves or liquor cabinets, or so I've been told

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This is a great thread. I haven’t been playing long. I came to bass as a supplement and benefit to learning banjo. I think I have found what I should have been doing the whole time. I got a Beginner Country Bass video download, and I’m waiting on my copy of The Lost Art Of Country Bass to be delivered. On the video, Scott Grove teaches walking lines that are 1,3,5,6,b7. But that is 9 notes if you go up and back. I like what I’ve read here. Thanks to all for some good advice.
 
You should get a lot out of the Lost Art of Country Bass book. Work on the walking bass lines from Allen Williams and especially Bob Moore....and you will be in good shape. Make sure you play them with energy. You can also pick up a lot of great connecting lines for the upright from some of the electric bass tabs, especially those in the last section of the book.
 
An old thread, but I feel compelled to comment, as country & western/western swing walking bass is my specialty.

An understanding of the music will help know when to walk and how to walk. If you're talking about Ray Price, Faron Young, Johnny Bush, etc., that style is a shuffle. Shuffle music is a descendant of western swing, which is a descendant of early jazz and swing. In other words, shuffle-style music is DANCE music. Ray Price played DANCES, as is the tradition in Texas.

SO... if your bassman plays 1-3-5-3-1-3-5-3-1 all night, that doesn't go anywhere musically. It's laborious and heavy, and even more so when the drummer hits the kickdrum 4/4 all night. That's ok for modern Nashville music, I guess, but that is way too heavy for dancing. The bass should, when possible/practical, walk it all the way up, i.e. 1-3-5-6-8(1)-6-5-3-1. That lifted style of line extends the phrase, lets it breathe, and lightens it up, as dance music/jazz/swing should never be heavy-laden and laborious. Also, the kickdrum should be 2/4. Piano left hand should mimic bassman, and right hand should comp on the "&" of every beat (1 & 2 &...). Piano left hand should never compete with the bass, only compliment it. With this light, free style of rhythm, the lead instruments can float on top unencumbered by heavy-laden rhythms. It is very freeing to a lead player or a vocalist. Most of all, it is easy for dancers to dance. They don't come to a dancehall to plod, they come to dance. How you play can directly affect how light on their feet they can be.

If you want to play a 2/4 walking bass instead of stacked bass (1-5-1-5), that is a great style when appropriately applied. Used in western swing. Still has a light, moving feel.

Either way, please don't play 1-3-5-3-1 every song all night long. That is bland, boring, uneventful, and doesn't fully allow the music to float or develop. If you're going to listen to Nashville recordings of walking bass/shuffles, they need to pre-date 1975. If you want something current, you might find a rare recording that features proper shuffle playing, but you'll have better luck checking out Jake Hooker or catching us live somewhere. Jake's recordings are great examples. There may be other players out there doing it, but maybe not so prominently. Definitely some guys in Nashville that know and understand, but don't have opportunities like we have here in Texas. Regardless, listening to fine examples is the key.


that might be the best response I ever read on tb
 
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kkaarrll: I would generally agree with Buffalo Bill's comments but there are situations where the old 1-3-5-3 is appropriate. But a steady dose of 1-3-5-6-8-6-5-3-1 can also get boring.
If you decide 1-3-5-1 works, there things you can do with it to keep it interesting. Try 1-3-5-3-1-5-3-1 ahead of a change to the IV or V chord in the progression. That's a common variation.
Also, in any walking bass line, a descending run from the V chord back to the I adds some colour. So does an ascending run between chords in the progression.
Bob Moore's walking bass lines are always interesting in subtle ways. Listen very carefully to what he does with Patsy Cline's "Walking After Midnight". His authoritative bass line defines that song. You will find an example of that in The Lost Art of Country Bass...it's the last example of Bob Moore's style in the key of C on page 38.
Another great walking bass player you can learn a lot from is David Miller, the long time bass player with Asleep at the Wheel.
Have fun learning all this stuff. I love the opportunity to play walking bass lines.
 
kkaarrll: I would generally agree with Buffalo Bill's comments but there are situations where the old 1-3-5-3 is appropriate. But a steady dose of 1-3-5-6-8-6-5-3-1 can also get boring.
If you decide 1-3-5-1 works, there things you can do with it to keep it interesting. Try 1-3-5-3-1-5-3-1 ahead of a change to the IV or V chord in the progression. That's a common variation.
Also, in any walking bass line, a descending run from the V chord back to the I adds some colour. So does an ascending run between chords in the progression.
Bob Moore's walking bass lines are always interesting in subtle ways. Listen very carefully to what he does with Patsy Cline's "Walking After Midnight". His authoritative bass line defines that song. You will find an example of that in The Lost Art of Country Bass...it's the last example of Bob Moore's style in the key of C on page 38.
Another great walking bass player you can learn a lot from is David Miller, the long time bass player with Asleep at the Wheel.
Have fun learning all this stuff. I love the opportunity to play walking bass lines.


I am still trying to grasp my mind around these things

I think I get it

and love it!
 
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I am still trying to grasp my mind around these things

I think I get it

and love it!

Kkaarrll: As long as you know your major scale and the blues scale you can play all the walking bass lines you need for country, swing and bluegrass. Keith Rosier's "Lost Art of Country Bass" gives you all you need plus song references. YouTube is your friend.:)
You have some classic basses on your list of instruments. I was a Peavey bass fan in the 80's. Most of my band playing is on the upright but I use my P-bass and Squire VM Modified Jazz bass so I can also play non-bluegrass material for my own enjoyment.
 
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Kkaarrll: As long as you know your major scale and the blues scale you can play all the walking bass lines you need for country, swing and bluegrass. Keith Rosier's "Lost Art of Country Bass" gives you all you need plus song references. YouTube is your friend.:)

I know em with my fingers, but not by the numbers. Thats where it confuses me when I just read it. Thanks!