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Crappy bassists with expensive gears?

i dont know where i fit in here i'm a crappy bass player with crappy gear do i get a number or anythin?

and i have to say when it comes to gear its up to the person with the wallet after all its his hard earned cash and he may do with it as he wishes and for the record if i won the lottery i wouldnt by a high end bass like a warwick or whatever........ no i'd buy 2 high end bass's, have em gold plated then i'd have the fret markers made out of diamonds and the hardware made out of ivory coated in prehistoric amber which will go well with the platinum coated strings :bassist:

the part where i draw the line is someone with high end gear and no talent who belittles and taunts a musician with cheap gear and loads of talent but then again i get equally annoyed by bassists with cheap gear who belittle bassists with expensive gear or a talented bassist who taunts a crappy bassist or vice versa

bottom line gear has nothing to do with it you get talentless d**kheads everywhere gear or no gear dont let yourself be one of em
 
OP, the problem with the two guys mentioned is simply that they aren't good and/or professional. Had the same guy showed up with inexpensive gear he still would have been out of tune, unable to stay with the beat, etc. The gear is irrelevant.



If the guy had showed up with a squier, the thread would be in the lines of:


title--->"last night's soundcheck, newbie content"

...and then the bass player pulls out a squier. I knew he was a newbie the moment I spotted the bass. And sure enough, he was out of tune, unable to stay with the beat, etc..."


Like stated before:

a) expensive or not depends on how much money you make

b) A renaultsport clio 172/182 (not a golf GTI!!) with a skilled driver will give a porsche a run for their money. (not stated before though)

c) many "pro" musicians I know (people making real money out of gigs) will play any great playing bass they find. Logic being that the bass they play is only a tool to get the job done. Many will not own more than a couple of basses, let alone spend 6000K apiece.

d) a day job is the way to own great gear and not have enough time to be a great player
 
Oh, darn...

I thought this was a CLUB I could join....

^ I Still think this was the best one! :D

And remember.....

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I used to teach high performance driving. I know more dentists with Porsches who shouldn't be allowed to have a license at all...
In ten laps at summit point, I've put "supercars" a lap down with an MGB/GT. I don't think anyone is making the arguement that buying top end gear makes you better at it, but on some level in some circumstances it may afford (pun intended) a slight advantage... but it comes down to your personal skills.

I had a doctor with a Porsche... Dear god. I prefer to drive a Mits-Bits Lancer Evo or Impreza WRX STI over a Porsche. It's lighter, and probably can outmaneuver a Porsche.

I was going about mechanics in that post. If you replace a high-end tranny, rear end and engine in a GTI, you've put in some expensive gears, right?

Oh, and I'm a decnt bass player with decent gear. As in:MIM J Bass, Squier CV P as for basses, with a lower-end amp, a Rumble 75 (Compared to what I formerly had- A GK 700RB powering a 2x12 & 4x10)
 
It makes no difference whether they can't play on a $20 no-name bass or a $10K (insert high end instrument), other than your envy of the fact that they have more money than you.


BrandonBass, if you want nicer gear, you might consider doing what's necessary to be able to afford it, rather than begrudge those who already have done so...
:rollno:


+1

And the next time the OP reads a post from a TBer who owns more expensive gear than the OP does and makes certain to point out the alleged shortcomings of the kind of gear the OP can afford (while carefully staying within the boundaries of the TB TOS- it's not that delicate a balance), he needs to ignore it and continue to eat cake.

He's probably subconsciously responding to one of the many here (in TB, not necessarily this thread) who do exactly this for no reason.

The Internet is like real life, OP- doesn't matter if it's basses, cars, bicycles, watches, cameras, whatever. Almost everybody's in middle school at some point during their online sessions, and the guys who (thru bass ownership and images) can show more discretionary income than you are the ones who win the pissing contests. Period. Every time.

So play what you play and enjoy music.
 
i find that most musicians who is willing to part with their hard-earned cash are usually pretty good musicians. it shows a certain level of comittment to their craft. While this is not always the case, you see a guitarist with a squier strat armed with strings that look like they have been their for a decade, and armed with a single boss ds-1...chances are he wouldnt rock your socks off.

I just find it amazing someone can spend 2k(???) on a high end bass, waxes the neck every week, but wouldnt pay 30bucks to have it set up.
i'll be glad when school starts back up. then you will find something better to worry about than what someone else does.

btw, i've known a lot of mighty fine guitarists who can rip on a squier and do so on a regular basis for money.
 
And he couldnt afford a tuner, a proper set up and a metronome.

I'm confused at why a tuner and metronome are needed? If you've been playing long enough to be doing pro gigs surely you should be able to tune to ear? at least relative if not perfect. And if a click track is needed for a recording, all recording software (including garage band) has one built in. And live you have a band and drummer to keep in time.

Hey, I play a Warwick, clearly I'm doing something wrong :P .
 
Also as regards to wasting money as a musician - paying for a set up! Learn to do it yourself, it's not hard (particularly on a Warwick).

My bass is set up as good as it could possibly be, and it plays amazingly. Action is low with no fret buzz, intonation is perfect, harmonics come out so clean I can role off the high, select the neck pick up and pluck over the neck and I still get a crisp note. I have never paid anything for a set up.

And ok so I'm not one of the bad players you were talking about, but still just because someone hasn't paid for a set up and doesn't own a tuner, doesn't mean they don't deserve their instrument.
 
Based on this flawed logic, your command of the English language and it's "nuances" of spelling and grammar ought to preclude you from using a computer. It might be a good idea to woodshed a bit with a pencil (with an eraser), a dictionary, and spell-check.

Considering you're picking up on poor grammar, these two sentences are appalling to read.

Rewritten for you:
"Your flawed logic and poor grasp of the English language have lead me to consider that you should think before typing. Perhaps writing everything out first, on software with a spell check function, might help in the future."
 
I'm confused at why a tuner and metronome are needed? If you've been playing long enough to be doing pro gigs surely you should be able to tune to ear? at least relative if not perfect. And if a click track is needed for a recording, all recording software (including garage band) has one built in. And live you have a band and drummer to keep in time.

Hey, I play a Warwick, clearly I'm doing something wrong :P .

totally correct, if you play to a metronome live you'll probs sound horrid! you have a drummer/ band to stay in time to!

i keep a tuner on my board because in the middle of a set i think it just looks better and its quicker to hit a pedal and the 12th fret takes like 10secs.

love my modulus and ampeg/aguilar rig!

andy
 

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