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Cuss words in songs?

So, I am just now starting to put lots of effort into writing my songs, and I was wondering, should I avoid using buss words in my songs? I'm in High School, and I'm sure my dad would be a little upset with it, but other than that, I can't see any other reason to avoid using them. If I ever play at a family-friendly venue, I can simply change the words. But still, do you recommend excluding offensive words from my songs?

Take a listen to "The Walk" by Mayer Hawthorne.
 
It's called creativity. If you listen to various bands like the Pretenders, The Who, and The Tubes, sometimes their F words got past the censors and trailblazing FM radio DJ's like Jim Ladd who capitalized on it in the 70's. I actually have an old cassette with Jim Ladd using profanity on his radio show. I would love to show it to him someday.
 
I write songs with cuss words in them. Not to excess, but if I feel it's needed I'll throw one in there. I play for adults in adult venues. You have to prove you're an adult to get in there. So I'm not worried about it much.
 
Every so often profanity is needed to convey your thoughts precisely.
Really? How so? Just look at the most common one ... the f-bomb. It means absolutely nothing in most contexts, and there are synonyms in others. I agree that it's indicative of a limited vocabulary.

- just compare the responses of those whose replies include profanity with those who don't ... see what I mean?
 
Really? How so? Just look at the most common one ... the f-bomb. It means absolutely nothing in most contexts, and there are synonyms in others. I agree that it's indicative of a limited vocabulary.

- just compare the responses of those whose replies include profanity with those who don't ... see what I mean?

LOL. In the Marines, a buddy and I would see who could use the f-word the most times in a sentence. It meant putting it between syllables in every polysyllabic word. It seemed very funny at the time.
 
LOL. In the Marines, a buddy and I would see who could use the f-word the most times in a sentence. It meant putting it between syllables in every polysyllabic word. It seemed very funny at the time.

I had a friend back in the eighties who used the MF-word in this way, and it was hilarious, and even moreso because if you said the GD one, he would become very offended.

I loved that guy.
 
Really? How so? Just look at the most common one ... the f-bomb. It means absolutely nothing in most contexts, and there are synonyms in others. I agree that it's indicative of a limited vocabulary.

- just compare the responses of those whose replies include profanity with those who don't ... see what I mean?

I agree that profanity has very limited uses in "public" conversation, however I'm sure we could find some uses. Snot - while not profanity - is a whispered word that doesn't get used a lot in public but it fit Aqualung quite well.
 
Every so often profanity is needed to convey your thoughts precisely. Usually though, it's just a crutch that supports a lazy or limited vocabulary.
For instance, if you were to use the word F*** when you hit the biggest climax in your catalog of songs, you would give it much more power and impact than having 20 songs that infuse profanity as though it were the word "the".
I write songs with cuss words in them. Not to excess, but if I feel it's needed I'll throw one in there.
Always consider your audience. You will probably never have someone say, "they are a pretty good band, but, I would REALLY like them if they cussed more." It is very likely you would have someone say, "I like that band, I just wish they didn't cuss so much."

A lot of wisdom here. Cussing is one of those things where less is more. In songwriting, cussing isn't necessarily something to be avoided at all costs, but keeping cuss words to a minimum definitely increases their impact when they are used.
 
Years ago someone gave me some good advice about that subject. He was talking about live performance more than song writing, but I personally think it still holds. "Nobody well ever be offended that you DON'T use that kind of language." (I had just let a few four letter words get out at a show.) What he meant was, nobody will ever listen to one of your songs and say to themselves "Man, that song could have been amazing if the guy had only cussed in it." Unless it REALLY moves the story in the song along, I would avoid it. It just serves no purpose.
 
How it fits the music - and if you're capable of singing it convincingly-otherwise, what's the point? Radiohead;s 'Creep' is a tune by a very polite band that in my mind loses a lot without the "so ****ing special" in it.

Once you do it, though, do not back down and perform an 'appropiate' version every once in a while..... that in itself is proof that the cuss words weren't necessary....
 

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