Hey Guys I wanted to build a cab based on the cabinet of the Ampeg SVT-410hlf using 4 Eminence Deltalite 2510 or 2 Eminence Kappalite 3012HO. I look at the plot graph for the two and compared the Deltalite 10’s got good low end but the only can handle 375-400w due to xmax & the Kappalite 12’s have no xmax problem but the 10’s have better low end response the 12’s. What should I do....want my cabinet to be loud but have good low end at the same time without the cone farting.
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Custom Cab Build: 4x10 or 2x12
- Thread starter NardyBass
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Maybe @DukeLeJeune might stop by and comment in the topic.
I suggest building two 2x10s, one with a tweeter, and vertically stacking them.
Better dispersion(stage/foh), moves more air, better bass, and easier for you to hear and adjust.
Also consider an HPF to protect the speakers from over excursion(Xmax).
Good luck with the build!
I suggest building two 2x10s, one with a tweeter, and vertically stacking them.
Better dispersion(stage/foh), moves more air, better bass, and easier for you to hear and adjust.
Also consider an HPF to protect the speakers from over excursion(Xmax).
Good luck with the build!
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Hey I gonna do 2 4x10 or 2 2x12 not just 1 cabinet. Probably gonna be using a QSC amp with the built in hpf in it.
Two 2x10s instead of two 4x10s will give you better dispersion.
How do you conclude that two 4x10s are similar to two 2x12s?
Having been a player since the 1970's I've played through just about everything.
The best sounding cabs are "always" 410's. 210's are nice for rehearsals, heck I use on myself for rehearsals.
But for live performance a 410 will win every time.
IME YMMV
i've had 8x10s 2x15s etc. honestly they don't sound that much different. 10 12 15 doesn't matter. you can eq your amp to make it sound how you want it to sound. i can get the same sound from a 1x15 as i can get out of an 8x10 cabinet. i think a lot of the sound is just in people's heads so to speak. they think a maple neck sounds so much different than a rosewood and so forth. 10s different than 15s or 12s etc. etc. there may be slight differences but it's nothing you or anyone else is gonna notice when playing live or when recording honestly. now different types of basses with different pickups and different amps give different sounds of course.
it basically comes down to what you want. i remember playing through an svt cl with 8x10 cabinet. we played a gig and i didn't have my amp so they had a GK rb800 or something that had 1x15 and 2x10s. it sounded pretty much the same as my svt setup did. exactly 100% the same? no but close enough. in the mix you don't hear all the tiny differences you hear when just sitting in a room playing by yourself. also coming out the PA never sounds exactly the same as it does coming out of your amp. post eq and direct out and everything. it still always sounds slightly different.
i mean think about it. when you play a gig the bass is coming out of a subwoofer that is 15" or 18" in the PA system not a 10" or 12" speaker.
having said that i like low end so i would make a 4x10" cabinet
some of the "different" sound comes from the brand of speakers used and how the cabinet is built. i remember trying the ampeg 2x15 cab when i bought my svt. their 2x15 cab didn't sound anywhere near as good as their 8x10 cab did so i went with the 8x10. however the mesa boogie 2x15 cab sounded just as good as the ampeg 8x10.
it basically comes down to what you want. i remember playing through an svt cl with 8x10 cabinet. we played a gig and i didn't have my amp so they had a GK rb800 or something that had 1x15 and 2x10s. it sounded pretty much the same as my svt setup did. exactly 100% the same? no but close enough. in the mix you don't hear all the tiny differences you hear when just sitting in a room playing by yourself. also coming out the PA never sounds exactly the same as it does coming out of your amp. post eq and direct out and everything. it still always sounds slightly different.
i mean think about it. when you play a gig the bass is coming out of a subwoofer that is 15" or 18" in the PA system not a 10" or 12" speaker.
having said that i like low end so i would make a 4x10" cabinet
some of the "different" sound comes from the brand of speakers used and how the cabinet is built. i remember trying the ampeg 2x15 cab when i bought my svt. their 2x15 cab didn't sound anywhere near as good as their 8x10 cab did so i went with the 8x10. however the mesa boogie 2x15 cab sounded just as good as the ampeg 8x10.
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Two vertical 2x10s=4x10.i've had 8x10s 2x15s etc. honestly they don't sound that much different. 10 12 15 doesn't matter. you can eq your amp to make it sound how you want it to sound. i can get the same sound from a 1x15 as i can get out of an 8x10 cabinet. i think a lot of the sound is just in people's heads so to speak. they think a maple neck sounds so much different than a rosewood and so forth. 10s different than 15s or 12s etc. etc. there may be slight differences but it's nothing you or anyone else is gonna notice when playing live or when recording honestly. now different types of basses with different pickups and different amps give different sounds of course.
it basically comes down to what you want. i remember playing through an svt cl with 8x10 cabinet. we played a gig and i didn't have my amp so they had a GK rb800 or something that had 1x15 and 2x10s. it sounded pretty much the same as my svt setup did. exactly 100% the same? no but close enough. in the mix you don't hear all the tiny differences you hear when just sitting in a room playing by yourself. also coming out the PA never sounds exactly the same as it does coming out of your amp. post eq and direct out and everything. it still always sounds slightly different.
i mean think about it. when you play a gig the bass is coming out of a subwoofer that is 15" or 18" in the PA system not a 10" or 12" speaker.
having said that i like low end so i would make a 4x10" cabinet
Well..... Can’t say it similar all I know is from what I see in other forums is that 4x10 have better low end & a bit more output than 2x12.
I agree I play through a Gallien Kreueger 115 first than a 410 neo I was in love lol but now I wanna build some bass cabs. Specifically 2 4x10 or 2 2x12 wan em loud and low.
i've had 8x10s 2x15s etc. honestly they don't sound that much different. 10 12 15 doesn't matter. you can eq your amp to make it sound how you want it to sound. i can get the same sound from a 1x15 as i can get out of an 8x10 cabinet. i think a lot of the sound is just in people's heads so to speak. they think a maple neck sounds so much different than a rosewood and so forth. 10s different than 15s or 12s etc. etc. there may be slight differences but it's nothing you or anyone else is gonna notice when playing live or when recording honestly. now different types of basses with different pickups and different amps give different sounds of course.
it basically comes down to what you want. i remember playing through an svt cl with 8x10 cabinet. we played a gig and i didn't have my amp so they had a GK rb800 or something that had 1x15 and 2x10s. it sounded pretty much the same as my svt setup did. exactly 100% the same? no but close enough. in the mix you don't hear all the tiny differences you hear when just sitting in a room playing by yourself. also coming out the PA never sounds exactly the same as it does coming out of your amp. post eq and direct out and everything. it still always sounds slightly different.
i mean think about it. when you play a gig the bass is coming out of a subwoofer that is 15" or 18" in the PA system not a 10" or 12" speaker.
having said that i like low end so i would make a 4x10" cabinet
some of the "different" sound comes from the brand of speakers used and how the cabinet is built. i remember trying the ampeg 2x15 cab when i bought my svt. their 2x15 cab didn't sound anywhere near as good as their 8x10 cab did so i went with the 8x10. however the mesa boogie 2x15 cab sounded just as good as the ampeg 8x10.
That is true but I just have more taste for 4x10 and/or 2x12.
The problem is forums are prone to sweeping generalisations. Dogs are heavier than cats, but if what you have in front of you is a Maine Coon and a Chihuahua puppy, then you'd better not bet that dog will be heavier than that cat...
The truth is individual designs vary enough that it just doesn't help much to pick out kit based on generalisations and myths. You've just got to listen to how each individual design fits your needs.
