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Custom DIY 2x15 cab build

#302
okay, i used the SVT with all of the tone controls set at noon and i kept the volume somewhat low so i could close mic each speaker without them interacting too much. the first clip is the paper dust cap and the second one is the aluminum one. To me, they both sound really good, but the aluminum just has a bit more upper mids and top end.

Paper dust cap

Aluminum dust cap
 
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#306
yeah, it just opens the high end up a little bit. it cracks me up when people don't believe that it does, and even Harvey Gerst that designed the JBL D series mentioned that it adds a bit of top end,

TWO MORE CLIPS:
here's a clip of my vintage acoustic 370 mic'ing the top speaker of the cab. (IMO, it's a complete myth that the old acoustics don't sound as good as today's modern amps. (and i posted that in the current acoustic thread that's going ;)). i actually think they sound just as good or better, and to prove it, the second clip is my streamliner 900 without moving the mic at all.

370/Starliner

STM900/Starliner
 
#307
Ha! Just listened to these and posted on that thread. Seems to me you're going for an evolution through intelligent design movement here, keeping the best of the old school stuff and bringing it into the 21st century. As opposed to just jumping headlong into a whole new aesthetic. Nothing wrong w/that approach, but there's so much to be appreciated and learned from the old gear :cool:

Getting old myself so there's obviously a self-serving subtext in here somewhere ;)
 
#308
I've always been a fan of the vintage Acoustic amps. There is a reason they are still classics. I'm surprized how similar they sound. The STM900 has a bit more 3D heft in the texture but they both sound so good it's purely a matter of taste. Are you using a Zoom H4N to record those clips? They sound really good and I was thinking of picking one up.
 
#309
The Acoustic DEFINITELY sounds better than the Streamliner...similar, yes, but the Streamliner has that emptiness that alot of modern amps have. Somehow, the Acoustic fills in that emptiness. There's just more SOUND there...fuller, thicker, more character. Not as sterile...it's slight, but it's the difference between disappearing in a mix and being heard.
 
#311
ggoat!!! said:
The Acoustic DEFINITELY sounds better than the Streamliner...similar, yes, but the Streamliner has that emptiness that alot of modern amps have. Somehow, the Acoustic fills in that emptiness. There's just more SOUND there...fuller, thicker, more character. Not as sterile...it's slight, but it's the difference between disappearing in a mix and being heard.
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i agree with you 100%. to me the 370 has NO holes in it's tone and is nice and thick from the ultra lows thru the mids yet has a super sweet and balanced top end, so there's a reason that they're one of my all time favorite heads.
 
#314
johnk_10 said:
okay, i used the SVT with all of the tone controls set at noon and i kept the volume somewhat low so i could close mic each speaker without them interacting too much. the first clip is the paper dust cap and the second one is the aluminum one. To me, they both sound really good, but the aluminum just has a bit more upper mids and top end.

Paper dust cap

Aluminum dust cap
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Now hearing them side by side, I must say I gravitate towards the rounder sound of the paper cone. I also think I'm hearing a hint of distortion (?) coming from the aluminum cone, but maybe I'm mistaken...


John, did anyone congratulate you on your tasty playing ? Not the usual slap orgy, but a simple tasty bassline, really well played. Nice one. :cool:
Edit: Steely Dan bass lines :bassist:
 
#315
OldogNewTrick said:
Now hearing them side by side, I must say I gravitate towards the rounder sound of the paper cone. I also think I'm hearing a hint of distortion (?) coming from the aluminum cone, but maybe I'm mistaken...
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there's definitely no distortion coming from the ally cone. just more string and fret noise. i really like the roundness of the paper cone too, but i still prefer the slightly brighter aluminum one, since, if i want it a bit darker, when i slightly roll my tone knob down on my bass, it sounds just like the paper dust cap.


OldogNewTrick said:
John, did anyone congratulate you on your tasty playing ? Not the usual slap orgy, but a simple tasty bassline, really well played. Nice one. :cool:
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thanks! i appreciate it.
 
#316
It is an interesting an subtle difference between paper and alum. that I never knew existed.
Wonder how much of this shows through when listening without PA support a 5' feet away from the cabinet
Also wonder if the alum brightness could be EQ'd in.
Love these experiments with good playing and sound clips.
 
#318
When I did my Twin not long ago, I got speakers with mesh dust covers (Weber Californias) to combat some of that edgy treble the amp could have. It definitely made the amp much warmer and less cutting, almost too much. I can certainly buy that the dust cover material changes the tone.
 
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johnk_10 said:
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That looks really cool John! :cool:
 

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