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D Standard Club (DGCF)

Ah, I didn't catch that you were looking at flats. Yes Stringjoy has still not released their flatwound strings yet. I have a set of Stringjoy strings on my 5 string bass and really like how that B string sounds and feels. Of course, it's also a 35" scale, so that probably helps a bit.
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35" makes only a slight difference. But every bit would help as far as a B goes. I seem very sensitive to string tensions/stiffness. Obviously folks who use a 5 stringer or 4 stringer tuner BEAD seem to adapt to the B or don't find it a prob. Maybe it comes from the floppyness of downtuning a subscale bass has caused an over sensitization to anything remotely floppy once you get back into a long scale.
Back to D standard, it does the job for songs in E flat and that is good enough for me.
 
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So I’m toying with the idea of going back to D Standard on my Schecter (currently BEAD). I think I’m going to use Ernie Ball Cobalt Slinky flats, just like I’ve got on my Ray5.

The Ray5 has 45-130 (effectively the 45-100 Super Slinky set), so I’m considering the 50-105 Regular Slinky set for D Standard. I fear the 55-110 Power Slinky set might be too much.

Can anybody weigh in on Regular Slinky vs. Power Slinky Cobalt flats for D Standard?
 
So I’m toying with the idea of going back to D Standard on my Schecter (currently BEAD). I think I’m going to use Ernie Ball Cobalt Slinky flats, just like I’ve got on my Ray5.

The Ray5 has 45-130 (effectively the 45-100 Super Slinky set), so I’m considering the 50-105 Regular Slinky set for D Standard. I fear the 55-110 Power Slinky set might be too much.

Can anybody weigh in on Regular Slinky vs. Power Slinky Cobalt flats for D Standard?

Alright, the more I think about it, the more I think I’ll just go with some 55-110 Power Slinky rounds. It’s nice to have one bass with rounds.
 
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So I’m toying with the idea of going back to D Standard on my Schecter (currently BEAD). I think I’m going to use Ernie Ball Cobalt Slinky flats, just like I’ve got on my Ray5.

The Ray5 has 45-130 (effectively the 45-100 Super Slinky set), so I’m considering the 50-105 Regular Slinky set for D Standard. I fear the 55-110 Power Slinky set might be too much.

Can anybody weigh in on Regular Slinky vs. Power Slinky Cobalt flats for D Standard?
Haven't tried those cobalt flats, but 110 is pretty much the minimum for D on a 34" bass in my experience. Regardless of brand.
P.s Why you going from BEAD back to DGCF?
 
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Haven't tried those cobalt flats, but 110 is pretty much the minimum for D on a 34" bass in my experience. Regardless of brand.
P.s Why you going from BEAD back to DGCF?

I’ve gone from BEAD to DGCF several times over the years. I find that altering the tuning changes my approach to the instrument. It’s very much a mental thing. Plus it’s a fun challenge from time to time. I have a 5-string in standard tuning, so the 4-string is sort of redundant with regards to alternate tuning. I like the feel of my 4-string. It has 24 frets, so range is not really an issue. I find sometimes that I don’t love the sound of a B-string, which is why I want to go back to D Standard for a bit.

Basically, I feel like it
 
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I’ve gone from BEAD to DGCF several times over the years. I find that altering the tuning changes my approach to the instrument. It’s very much a mental thing. Plus it’s a fun challenge from time to time. I have a 5-string in standard tuning, so the 4-string is sort of redundant with regards to alternate tuning. I like the feel of my 4-string. It has 24 frets, so range is not really an issue. I find sometimes that I don’t love the sound of a B-string, which is why I want to go back to D Standard for a bit.

Basically, I feel like it
Yes, the B can sound very undefined I have found. D standard is a good alternative to BEAD. Can kind of have your cake and eat it too
 
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Joining the club with the Sawtooth acoustic fretted 4-string. I’ve had it about a month, been getting to know it - really interesting instrument. Night before last just as I was falling asleep I was thinking about it and realised it might work well for D-standard. It is loud, factory strings are stiff on it and it has really good access to high frets, lowest frets a bit of a reach. Above all, it has a sound character that I’d call “eager” - like it’s wound up tight; like it could do with a little relaxing.

Yesterday morning I tuned down and OMG it’s heaven. Got so excited I went to see if anyone else was as excited about D-standard and found this thread. It’s been an enjoyable read going through all your posts here.

To add to our collective experience: it’s 34” scale with D’addario phosphor-bronze 45-65-80-100. The 45 and 65 work perfect for F and C, but I think 80 and 100 are at the limit of acceptable tension for G and D. They work and sound good, but I get the feeling 85 and 105 would be even better in this string/guitar pair.
 
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To add to our collective experience: it’s 34” scale with D’addario phosphor-bronze 45-65-80-100. The 45 and 65 work perfect for F and C, but I think 80 and 100 are at the limit of acceptable tension for G and D. They work and sound good, but I get the feeling 85 and 105 would be even better in this string/guitar pair.
DR makes a 45-65-85-105 phosphor bronze set, the RPB-45 ("Rare - Acoustic Bass").

Should you find the 105 still inadequate for D-tuning, you could replace it with a single 110 by Ernie Ball (P01461, "Earthwood Phosphor Bronze Acoustic Bass").
 
If I have a bass set up for Eb with EB Super Slinky (45,60,80,100) will I need to do any major adjustments or should I go up a string size? Guitar it was usually no biggie but I never went this low for bass. I’ll probably drop my Eb to D standard and a bass with slightly higher action to eb.
 
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If I have a bass set up for Eb with EB Super Slinky (45,60,80,100) will I need to do any major adjustments or should I go up a string size? Guitar it was usually no biggie but I never went this low for bass. I’ll probably drop my Eb to D standard and a bass with slightly higher action to eb.

I would suggest the "Hybrid Slinky", 45-65-85-105 for Eb-standard. 80A and 100E may end up a bit too loose.
 
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Sorry for the double post but I tried it anyway due to my want to learn some Ghost songs. Worked fine on my bass that went from Eb > D with the super slinky’s. I tuned my Dirnt sig from E > Eb and it’s mostly fine but the 14-17 Frets have more noticeable buzz. I’ll have to adjust a bit. Not sure what strings are on it. No biggie and it could be worse. I have no flop!
 
They feel incredible. I had never really considered going this heavy before. They are so stable and they have the “snap” that I was missing when I had it setup BEAD.
On the low D, did you lose anything in terms of usable frets up the board - with "usable" meaning "not too inharmonic = chorusy-sounding"? Does the chorus/bell-like (in a bad way) area start noticeably lower than with a smaller gauge?
 
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Been loving the D standard for almost a year now. Even using it on some medium scales with no floppiness issues. I find a slightly looser feel, in a good way, and a richer tone for some reason. Maybe just in my head, but whatevs. D standard rocks!!
I have one of my Ric 4003s tuned to D Standard and it's a 33.25" scale bass. I don't have any issues with floppiness since I changed from tapes to pressurewounds. But I learned this year that I prefer lighter strings, so I have a medium gauge (45-105) set of Rotosound 55s on that bass.
 
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Recent adventures that might be interesting to others who follow or find this thread: So I tuned my new Sawtooth to D standard a little while ago and it was clear I was onto something good, but I felt maybe the tension on the D and G (biggest 2 strings) was a little low with the factory D’addario 45-100 bronze strings. I got so interested in strings you’d think the lives of millions depended on my choice. Studied the tension charts and learned as much as the internet could teach me about the relationships between frequency and string length and mass, inharmonicity, metals and alloys, hex and round cores, and finally ordered a set of GHS medium pressure wound 44-106 alloy 52 strings. Now I get why people work themselves up over strings: so much more complex and, in theory anyways, important than I ever imagined.

While waiting for the new strings to be delivered I got familiar with the new tuning and tried it on my other basses and in different contexts. On my main bass I use to play with other musicians in public I have to stay E-standard. I know the basslines to that set of songs so well I play without thinking, I’m using open notes in E-standard and singing, and the switch to D-standard is too hard, messes everything up, not worth it.

On the other hand, the fretless bass I use to play along with streamed music is so much more enjoyable in D-standard. I was very surprised it worked: it’s a short-scale (30.5 inch) Guild acoustic with D’addario bronze 45-100s. No way it could have good tension and sound tuned a whole step down… but it does feel and sound great, better than in E! How!!?? And it makes it possible to play along with any song without any open notes. This is very nice because a lot of old songs I want to play along with are not in standard tuning - a little sharp or flat from song to song. Fretless in D-standard=no problem just jump right in.

The new strings arrived. I made a recording before and after to compare the sound. The pressure wound alloy 52 are even brighter and richer in high frequency harmonics than the bronze, which weren’t yet very old. No change in loudness. Still a little too much finger noise but that’s on me (this guitar amplifies high frequency squeaks and I was hoping the pressure wounds would better mask my poor technique but nope). The fattest string doesn’t fit properly into the nut slot but it actually sounds fine and the higher action isn’t too bad; notes are sharp up there past the twelfth fret, maybe eventually I’ll widen the nut slot but no hurry. Tension very even across the strings, they seem well-suited to D-standard on this guitar. Oddly what I like most about these new strings is how they sparkle. Out of habit I tend to watch my fretting fingers when I’m just messing around alone, entertaining myself. These strings look like they are coated with diamond dust.

Now the adventure gets weird. So I’ve got my new strings on, I’m playing around alone, listening deeply to all the sounds and I get really sad. It’s the sound coming from my bass: these strings on this guitar in D-standard tuning evoke an overwhelming melancholy. Especially the low D. That note alone, ringing out with all its overtones just made me feel hopeless. When I realized it I thought, hey, that’s pretty neat, would be good for a certain mood but jeez, too heavy for right now. So I tuned up to E-standard just to see. The guitar told me « no » it’s just too tight. Hmm, D-standard too gloomy and E-standard too tense. Is there a happy place in between? I set about looking for the perfect tuning, by ear, and found it. It was incredible, all the notes seemed to resonate and blend perfectly. I felt good and fulfilled making music with this setup. I used a tuning app to figure out where, exactly, I had landed: I was almost in D-standard, but about 20 cents sharp. It corresponded with a tuning of A=444.

Now, I’ve always thought the whole « healing frequency » C528 thing was new-age hogwash and I’m still skeptical, but these strings on this guitar somehow want this A=444 D-standard tuning. It’s an unconventional acoustic, so there are a lot of complex things going on with the dimensions and the wood, and the strings are complex, so how bizarre, right? How unlikely that the string tension that really makes this particular combination of complex variables sing like an angel corresponds to this crazy C528 nonsense?
 

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