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D'Addario QC or Counterfeit?

I appreciate everyone's inputs. I looked at some other sets that I forgot I bought last year from Fret Nation which is highly regarded. I wanted to try the exact same gauges on my SR1346 that Ibanez shipped from the factory and are specified on their website: D'Addario® EXL165 + .032/.130 . I bought them but haven't tried them on yet. I took out an E-string from one of the EXL165 sets and opened one of the B-string singles (.130). Here are some pictures. In order:

1. E-String: you can see a slight bend, not too bad but still noticeable
2. B-string single sealed in package. Looks good there
3. B-string single with package opened but left coiled up. I'm seeing the kink clearly.
4. B-string with the ball-end released. Significant kink plain as day.

To me, my thought now is that the issue is not a return problem, nor counterfeit, but seemingly D'Addario's packaging process. Maybe they've cut corners to save a few bucks. Dunno. Obviously, low E and B strings are stiffer than the higher strings and the amount of bending somehow done to fit the strings in the package results in inelastic deformation leaving a kink.

I might decide to try some DR Lo-Riders again which I've used in the past but it's been awhile. I've recently used some Dunlop Super Bright Nickels 4-125 that did not have this problem. They work fine on two of my basses but the XL's have worked better on most of my others. Needless to say I'm kind of P'd off with D'Addario at the moment.

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I use d'Addarios a lot, too, and this kind of packaging and slight kink seems pretty "normal" to me. Never had an issue after installing the string though. It was just a little "not straight", nothing irreversible.
 
I use d'Addarios a lot, too, and this kind of packaging and slight kink seems pretty "normal" to me. Never had an issue after installing the string though. It was just a little "not straight", nothing irreversible.
You're right it's reversible, but the fact that I heard artifacts on those strings that I haven't heard in the past makes me think that the kink affected the vibrational characteristics of the string even after straightening. Perhaps if I played around with them straightening the best I could and letting them break in they'll improve. Still, one shouldn't have to do this. If other string manufacturers don't have this problem (of course I haven't tested every other manufacturer), neither should D'Addario.
 
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I appreciate everyone's inputs. I looked at some other sets that I forgot I bought last year from Fret Nation which is highly regarded. I wanted to try the exact same gauges on my SR1346 that Ibanez shipped from the factory and are specified on their website: D'Addario® EXL165 + .032/.130 . I bought them but haven't tried them on yet. I took out an E-string from one of the EXL165 sets and opened one of the B-string singles (.130). Here are some pictures. In order:

1. E-String: you can see a slight bend, not too bad but still noticeable
2. B-string single sealed in package. Looks good there
3. B-string single with package opened but left coiled up. I'm seeing the kink clearly.
4. B-string with the ball-end released. Significant kink plain as day.

To me, my thought now is that the issue is not a return problem, nor counterfeit, but seemingly D'Addario's packaging process. Maybe they've cut corners to save a few bucks. Dunno. Obviously, low E and B strings are stiffer than the higher strings and the amount of bending somehow done to fit the strings in the package results in inelastic deformation leaving a kink.

I might decide to try some DR Lo-Riders again which I've used in the past but it's been awhile. I've recently used some Dunlop Super Bright Nickels 4-125 that did not have this problem. They work fine on two of my basses but the XL's have worked better on most of my others. Needless to say I'm kind of P'd off with D'Addario at the moment.

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You're right it's reversible, but the fact that I heard artifacts on those strings that I haven't heard in the past makes me think that the kink affected the vibrational characteristics of the string even after straightening. Perhaps if I played around with them straightening the best I could and letting them break in they'll improve. Still, one shouldn't have to do this. If other string manufacturers don't have this problem (of course I haven't tested every other manufacturer), neither should D'Addario.

Looks spot on to what I was seeing with their kinked strings and how they were wound. No, you aren't imagining things because it did cause problems and it's why I complained to DA. They were good about sending me some new strings, but unfortunately the replacements they sent were also victim to being wound too tight. I appreciate their stellar customer service, but I have since moved on from using DA entirely because this and I have not encountered it with any other brand I've used. So that says to me they've made a goof in their process and it still hasn't been addressed, or we have yet to cycle through all of the lots of effected strings that are still with vendors.
 
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Looks spot on to what I was seeing with their kinked strings and how they were wound. No, you aren't imagining things because it did cause problems and it's why I complained to DA. They were good about sending me some new strings, but unfortunately the replacements they sent were also victim to being wound too tight. I appreciate their stellar customer service, but I have since moved on from using DA entirely because this and I have not encountered it with any other brand I've used. So that says to me they've made a goof in their process and it still hasn't been addressed, or we have yet to cycle through all of the lots of effected strings that are still with vendors.
:cool:Glad it’s not just me. Good on customer service to send you some new strings but yeah, it looks like it’s a manufacturing packaging problem that needs to be addressed. I’ll see how my existing sets do over a break-in period, but I’m probably going to try some DR’s again. As you said, you haven’t encountered this with other brands. E and especially B strings are hard enough to get to sound right without having to contend with manufacturing defects.
 
:cool:Glad it’s not just me. Good on customer service to send you some new strings but yeah, it looks like it’s a manufacturing packaging problem that needs to be addressed. I’ll see how my existing sets do over a break-in period, but I’m probably going to try some DR’s again. As you said, you haven’t encountered this with other brands. E and especially B strings are hard enough to get to sound right without having to contend with manufacturing defects.

I just looked back at my emails with them and the conversation was from 2019. They may have decided it's not a problem, or like I said in my last post there could still be lots of effected strings out there. We'll likely never know, unfortunately.
 
I can’t imagine anyone going to the trouble of counterfeiting strings
They do. Check any of the same websites that sell counterfeit basses/guitars and look up bass strings. Someone earlier in the thread posted a YouTube video of someone demonstrating them compared to strings from the real manufacturer.

Out of curiosity I just checked a couple of those websites. First thing that popped up was fake Elixirs. On another site it was fake D’Addario’s. I won’t mention how much they cost since I believe that may violate forum rules, but look them up for yourself if you don’t believe me.
 
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They do. Check any of the same websites that sell counterfeit basses/guitars and look up bass strings. Someone earlier in the thread posted a YouTube video of someone demonstrating them compared to strings from the real manufacturer.

Out of curiosity I just checked a couple of those websites. First thing that popped up was fake Elixirs. On another site it was fake D’Addario’s. I won’t mention how much they cost since I believe that may violate forum rules, but look them up for yourself if you don’t believe me.
I believe you. Just seems crazy.