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Dancehall/DUB effects...

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by juancard, Mar 19, 2006.


  1. anyone have an idea which pedals out there can simulate that keyboard bass synth bass sound found on 80s dancehall records? I'm talkin' bout when engineers started using these cheap old casio keyboards lay down these pre-programed bass loops that provided the subsonic thump for alot of great dancehall reggae...
     
  2. bongomania

    bongomania Gold Supporting Member Commercial User

    Oct 17, 2005
    PDX, OR
    owner, OVNIFX and OVNILabs
    You'll find plenty of discussion of this in a lot of previous threads, but one easy answer is: DOD FX25.
     
  3. The Lurker

    The Lurker

    Aug 16, 2002
    Ankh-Morpork
    Digitech BSW will do much the same thing, actually.....mode 1, 2, or 7, control on 10, range between 1 and 3.
     
  4. endlessbassic

    endlessbassic

    Dec 23, 2004
    I can't remember ever hearing a Dancehall track that used an actual envelope follower, but maybe i'm wrong. One of the only ways to get close using a bass is to use some type of pitch-to-voltage convertor (most commonly found on a Korg MS-20, but also made as a module by Analogue Systems) to trigger an oscillator. You'll most likely need an envelope *generator* to shape the wave (attack/decay, etc) a bit, as well as a decent low pass filter, not necessarily in that order! Also, p-to-v convertors need to see a really strong (and monophonic) signal, so that they don't track incorrectly. Ain't no pedal i've seen that can do all of this, but i'll certainly buy one when there is!!

    Some other more dub-related ideas here, which mostly revolve around eq'ing and the occasional mention of the DBX Subharmonic Synthesizer.. http://www.interruptor.ch/dub_bass.shtml
     
  5. Joe P

    Joe P

    Jul 15, 2004
    Milwaukee, WI
    The idea is that you set the thing to NOT follow - or hardly, anyway. Part of the way a follower usually works is that it incorporates a sharp-cutoff lowpass filter with 'resonance'. This means that if you keep the cutoff freq set (or 'hovering') LOW, you're left with pretty-much the fundamental sinewave of the notes you're playing.

    This simulates the sound pretty well.

    Joe
     
  6. winston

    winston Supporting Member

    May 2, 2000
    Berkeley, CA
    I found a great dub site yesterday while looking for VST plugins. I downloaded the Dub Siren and an analog delay simulator--very trippy stuff. Here's a link to their bass suggestions page: http://www.interruptor.ch/dub_bass.shtml

    Like others have said an envelope filter with the sensitivity set low is a great way to lose the highs (even on bright, roundwound-equipped basses) and pump the lows. I like the Maxon/Ibanez AF-9. Like Bongomania (and Bill Laswell on the dub site) said, the DOD FX-25 works wonders for this purpose. Laswell knows a thing or two about enormous bass sounds.
     
  7. Planet Boulder

    Planet Boulder Hey, this is a private residence...man Supporting Member

    Nov 10, 2001
    6,482 feet above sea level
    I once had impure thoughts. Oh, and I pluck my ear hair.
    My band plays Sublime's "Pawn Shop" and I use the BassIQ for the dub tone. Works perfectly for my purposes. The tone is great.
     
  8. The Lurker

    The Lurker

    Aug 16, 2002
    Ankh-Morpork
    +1. It's not really what the pedal is designed to do-- it's crap, IMO, as a regular envelope-- but people discovered you could use it as sort of an uber-lowpass filter, it filters out most of the upper spectru, but gives you a metric ****-tonne of low end.
     
  9. Fantastic information! Thanks for the links!!
     
  10. dirtgroove

    dirtgroove

    Jan 10, 2003
    Taipei, Taiwan
    Nothing beats the boss oc2 at this for me.
    turn down the direct volume completely.
    boost the octave down volume.
    Play up above the 12th fret- anything is just little too low. track very well- it gives you a perfect dub/synth tone.
    for a straight out fat sound like an un opened envelope the dod25 and the bass iq track better than the digitechbsw-