Darkglass Anagram Multi FX Announced

[GotGroove]

I’d like to send processing to either the instrument input or to one of the effects returns.

This is probably not the answer you were looking for, but if messing about with output and EQ blocks is annoying (which I can understand) wouldn't it be easier to add a Boss AB-2 or similar on top of your amp? That way you keep full control over your tone inside the anagram and can switch between preamp and effects loop whenever it suits you without having to recreate and adjust your tone for each output.

 

[trigger_happy]

Just tried the latest update. I’ve owned an early You’re Doom and different Doom2 versions from hi gain to normal gain. It sounds spot on!! It feels, responds and sounds as how I remember my Doom2 does. Can’t wait for 2026 and more future updates.

I’ve not missed any of my analog pedals, in fact I sold them all and stuck with the Anagram and a MIDI controller. Really happy!

 

[IvanBassist]

Haven't been able to try it yet, but I really like the sounds in the video. Definitely more in direction of synth I am looking for

Okay @IvanBassist I’m loving what I’m hearing in the video

The Mood is a lot of fun

 

[Grahams Groove]

I’d like to send processing to either the instrument input or to one of the effects returns. There are two channels in the TT800 that I can select from a footswitch. One preset would drive the instrument input from output 3 into the 1st channel preamp, then out to my stage cab. The 2nd preset would drive the 2nd channel post-preamp from output 4 into the effects loop return, then out to the stage cab. The TT800 has 2 independent effect loops. Global EQ would be very handy to tame, let’s say a boomy stage by effecting all presets at once. And this lets me use one of the Mesa preamps with effects in front of it along with bypassing the other preamp to use any Anagram processing directly to the power amp section. That’s the idea. But I think I’ll need output and EQ blocks in each preset (that will bypass global EQ) to do this.

Thanks - I think that's clear, but just to reiterate my understanding, so the solution I'm suggesting makes sense... I'm throwing in some assumptions for the example, since I'm familiar with how the TT-800 signal chain works:

• You want Anagram output #3 going into the front of your TT-800 (effected by the amp EQ) to use with the Boogie channel.
• You want Anagram output #4 going to the effects return of your TT-800 (unaffected by the amp EQ) for use with the Subway channel.
• Presumably, you want the flexibility to use amp sims in your Anagram signal chain, but only send those to output #4 and FOH feeds? (i.e. You want flexibility to use amp/cab sims, but don't want to send an amp/cab sim to channel #3 since you're already using the amp/preamp section of the Boogie channel there?)
• You want the ability to manage boomy/problematic frequencies on stage (i.e. going to either channel of your TT-800/stage cabs) without those changes hitting the FOH feed.
• You don't want to have to adjust an HPF/EQ block in each preset at each gig, just to account for your stage amp sound.

If that's all correct, here's an example signal chain that could be a solution. Though, it still requires a little extra tweaking:

• Say your core signal chain for a preset is compressor > overdrive > phaser. So you effectively want that 'tone' going to all feeds regardless of amp sims, cab sims, HPF, etc. that come after.
• After the 'core' blocks, utilize Output Block #1 to send your signal to Anagram output #3 for the front of your TT-800 (Boogie channel).
• Next in the chain, place your amp and/or cab sim blocks that you want to use for that preset. (i.e. The blocks you want going to FOH and your un-EQ'ed TT-800 effects return channel.)
• Then place Output Block #2 to send your post-amp/cab sim signal to Anagram outputs #1 and/or #2, which are the DI outs for FOH. They're now sending without being effected by global EQ.)
• Finally, your remaining/open outputs (headphones and Anagram output #4) are sending everything in the signal chain and are being effected by any global EQ adjustments.
• Signal chain is effectively Anagram input > compressor > overdrive > phaser > output block #1 (sending to Anagram output #3) > amp/cab block(s) > output block #2 (sending to Anagram DI outputs #1/2) > global EQ > all other anagram outputs (Anagram output #4 and headphones in this case).

With the above setup, you'd still have to quick tweak the Boogie channel's HPF (and use the EQ if desired for that room) to adjust for the room/stage. (Though, you'd have to do that regardless unless you run everything perfectly flat/off.) Then your amp/cab sim'ed signal goes to FOH pre-global EQ - so they're getting a consistent feed, regardless of your stage amp sound. Finally, the global EQ could be used to adjust for stage sound on the Subway channel, since that's the effects return/pre-EQ channel on your amp. This obviously still requires 2 output blocks per preset to accomplish, but you'll typically use at least 1 output block if you're needing to send separate feeds to FOH and your own stage amp/monitor.

The only major wrench in the gears above is if you use amp and cab sims, but you want just the amp sim going to your Subway channel (since that goes to an actual cab) and then want amp sim > cab sim going to FOH. then you'd need a third/separate output block for Anagram output #4, and that would bypass the global EQ.

Sorry, that's an absolute wall of text, but it is possible to get close to your complex routing idea with just the Anagram...

 

[Ian774]

KosmOS v1.11.0

Release Date: 2025/12/30 Darkglass announcement on YouTube - New Features Fruity Horror Bass 500 amplifier (likely source - Orange Terror Bass 500W hybrid bass amp) Mood 2 Fuzz (likely source - 3Leaf Audio Doom 2) Bugfixes & Improvements Fixed: Loading bindings with file-lists parameters...

anagramanswers.com

Yay. Another fuzz overdrive block that sounds 20% different to the existing combinations of overdrive/fuzz/envelope filter blocks....
So glad we're now up to 13 different overdrive and distortion blocks because 12 just wasn't cutting it!

You had a tough Christmas bud?

 

[silky smoove]

Now we just need a filter with a quick downsweep and building convincing 80s synth sounds will be easily achievable, with or without a dedicated synth block.

 

[Grahams Groove]

Yeah - this Doom 2 block is killer. Just threw together a Moog synth patch and dropped it in the public presets on Darkglass Suite. It's setup as is with a chorus on, but I think it actually sounds fatter with the chorus block off (so just sublemon > mood > gravitron). Anyway, that preset is a nice starting point to dial in some classic Moog tones...

 

[jjo161]

Yeah - this Doom 2 block is killer. Just threw together a Moog synth patch and dropped it in the public presets on Darkglass Suite. It's setup as is with a chorus on, but I think it actually sounds fatter with the chorus block off (so just sublemon > mood > gravitron). Anyway, that preset is a nice starting point to dial in some classic Moog tones...

Looking forward to giving it a try

 

[wolffire99]

KosmOS v1.11.0

Release Date: 2025/12/30 Darkglass announcement on YouTube - New Features Fruity Horror Bass 500 amplifier (likely source - Orange Terror Bass 500W hybrid bass amp) Mood 2 Fuzz (likely source - 3Leaf Audio Doom 2) Bugfixes & Improvements Fixed: Loading bindings with file-lists parameters...

anagramanswers.com

Yay. Another fuzz overdrive block that sounds 20% different to the existing combinations of overdrive/fuzz/envelope filter blocks....
So glad we're now up to 13 different overdrive and distortion blocks because 12 just wasn't cutting it!

This one is pretty unique and highly sought after fuzz tone. I’ve been on the fence about keeping my anagram. Might push me to keep it for now. If they get the Octabvre’s Mu-tron octave setting that would be amazing.

 

[Superbird]

Thanks - I think that's clear, but just to reiterate my understanding, so the solution I'm suggesting makes sense... I'm throwing in some assumptions for the example, since I'm familiar with how the TT-800 signal chain works:

• You want Anagram output #3 going into the front of your TT-800 (effected by the amp EQ) to use with the Boogie channel.
• You want Anagram output #4 going to the effects return of your TT-800 (unaffected by the amp EQ) for use with the Subway channel.
• Presumably, you want the flexibility to use amp sims in your Anagram signal chain, but only send those to output #4 and FOH feeds? (i.e. You want flexibility to use amp/cab sims, but don't want to send an amp/cab sim to channel #3 since you're already using the amp/preamp section of the Boogie channel there?)
• You want the ability to manage boomy/problematic frequencies on stage (i.e. going to either channel of your TT-800/stage cabs) without those changes hitting the FOH feed.
• You don't want to have to adjust an HPF/EQ block in each preset at each gig, just to account for your stage amp sound.

If that's all correct, here's an example signal chain that could be a solution. Though, it still requires a little extra tweaking:

• Say your core signal chain for a preset is compressor > overdrive > phaser. So you effectively want that 'tone' going to all feeds regardless of amp sims, cab sims, HPF, etc. that come after.
• After the 'core' blocks, utilize Output Block #1 to send your signal to Anagram output #3 for the front of your TT-800 (Boogie channel).
• Next in the chain, place your amp and/or cab sim blocks that you want to use for that preset. (i.e. The blocks you want going to FOH and your un-EQ'ed TT-800 effects return channel.)
• Then place Output Block #2 to send your post-amp/cab sim signal to Anagram outputs #1 and/or #2, which are the DI outs for FOH. They're now sending without being effected by global EQ.)
• Finally, your remaining/open outputs (headphones and Anagram output #4) are sending everything in the signal chain and are being effected by any global EQ adjustments.
• Signal chain is effectively Anagram input > compressor > overdrive > phaser > output block #1 (sending to Anagram output #3) > amp/cab block(s) > output block #2 (sending to Anagram DI outputs #1/2) > global EQ > all other anagram outputs (Anagram output #4 and headphones in this case).

With the above setup, you'd still have to quick tweak the Boogie channel's HPF (and use the EQ if desired for that room) to adjust for the room/stage. (Though, you'd have to do that regardless unless you run everything perfectly flat/off.) Then your amp/cab sim'ed signal goes to FOH pre-global EQ - so they're getting a consistent feed, regardless of your stage amp sound. Finally, the global EQ could be used to adjust for stage sound on the Subway channel, since that's the effects return/pre-EQ channel on your amp. This obviously still requires 2 output blocks per preset to accomplish, but you'll typically use at least 1 output block if you're needing to send separate feeds to FOH and your own stage amp/monitor.

The only major wrench in the gears above is if you use amp and cab sims, but you want just the amp sim going to your Subway channel (since that goes to an actual cab) and then want amp sim > cab sim going to FOH. then you'd need a third/separate output block for Anagram output #4, and that would bypass the global EQ.

Sorry, that's an absolute wall of text, but it is possible to get close to your complex routing idea with just the Anagram...

Thank you very much for the detailed reply. My summary would be: Tap off any block combos that don’t need to global EQ with output blocks at path points serving FOH, etc. then use the remaining end of path outputs for stage monitoring with global EQ.

I’ve experienced with cab sims in the HX Stomp, but rarely have a need for them. Having my pick of amp sims and more through the Subway channel is a winner for sure. Really appreciate the insight

 

[AnthonyBe]

You had a tough Christmas bud?

Yeah... was hoping Santa would bring me a synth block but all I got was this lousy Temu knock-off... ;-)

But seriously, for those that want that 3Leaf Doom 2 fuzz synth tone - Merry Xmas!

I'm wanting a 'real' synth block for cleaner synth sounds (i.e. similar to the MXR) for covering all the 80s new wave and pop stuff I do. The new Mood Fuzz is just 'more of the same, but a little bit different' for mine. It is still based around 'fuzz'. You could already dial in a pretty good version of that tone before the Mood block. So this new block does little to expand the sonic horizons of the Anagram in my book, it just iterates on what is already there by a small amount. Is it nice to have - yep, sure. Do I think it should have been a priority over other features - No. Do I run Darkglass? No. So, this is just my opinion, but it's not an isolated one.

Yes, easy for people to jump on the 'your just a bah humbug ungrateful grinch' wagon. Doesn't bother me I know what functionality I'm wanting and waiting for. Darkglass knows where their product gaps are in the more mainstream space that they need to fill if they seriously want to not just compete with the likes of HX Stomp, etc., but be better than them. Especially for us bass players!

Yes, everything will come eventually. The product has been in market for 9 months. I'm sure there is a very clear development roadmap for the Anagram inside Darkglass for at least the next 24 months. I spent 25 years working in large companies that produce software and hardware the entire world uses so I have some insights into product development lifecycle. Yes, we all need to just be more patient. Doesn't mean I'm not going to be gritting my teeth next month as I play an 80s synthwave song wishing I had that mythical synth block on my Anagram (and I'm not going to buy the MXR for a short term sugar hit)! ;-)

Many of the 'gaps' that get asked for time and time again in the FB Group, Discord chat, this thread, YouTube video comments, and Anagram Answer forum are all captured here - Anagram Wish List (Feature Requests)
Most are pretty obvious if you (1) Use the Anagram for gigging or in studio for even a small amount of time, and/or (2) have experience with other similar types of devices (e.g. Line 6, Fractal, Hotone, etc.) that have been in market longer and are more mature in their feature set. I'd encourage folks here to go vote up the features they would like to use if Anagram had them, and add anything other features you'd like to see.

 

[Bassgeer]

Now we just need a filter with a quick downsweep and building convincing 80s synth sounds will be easily achievable, with or without a dedicated synth block.

Can any of the filters currently downsweep? Hoping they do a filter update adding a wah, as well as downsweep to both existing filters (if they are incapable) and resonance control to the Gravitron.

 

[silky smoove]

Can any of the filters currently downsweep? Hoping they do a filter update adding a wah, as well as downsweep to both existing filters (if they are incapable) and resonance control to the Gravitron.

Not currently. Only upsweeps.

 

[IvanBassist]

Happy new year, everyone

 

[Rockgeezer]

Thanks for all you do Ivan, we really do appreciate it! Happy New Year.

 

[Agosix]

I just downloaded the latest update for the anagram. I cannot make any adjustments to the effects, amps and stuff. I am waiting for a response from DG. Was wondering if anyone had the same issue.

 

[Grahams Groove]

I just downloaded the latest update for the anagram. I cannot make any adjustments to the effects, amps and stuff. I am waiting for a response from DG. Was wondering if anyone had the same issue.

Have you already tried powering it off and back on?

 

[Agosix]

Have you already tried powering it off and back on?

Yes by unplugging and plugging back in several times. Also trying plug the anagram into both computers, one being a windows laptop and then into iMac to see if any reboot or whatever may have…basically to see if any firewall stuff might have caused the problem.

 

[BrianVengeance]

If you’re able to get Darkglass Suite to recognize the device you may wish to try to reapply the firmware update.

 

[wolffire99]

Would really like to know what the issue is with the chocolate chorus. My level drops at least 3-5db when it’s on and there’s no level adjustment in the pedal settings to compensate. I’m also having certain frequencies just drop out like a phase issue. Am I the only one? Between these issues when I kick chorus on at church the bass completely disappears in the mix.

On another note, after encountering some frustrating quirks with the Amagram I borrowed an HX Stomp which I previously owned for two years and know inside and out to see if I should just go back. And the Anagram sounds better in almost every way except for chorus and other things more geared for guitar. The octaves, fuzz, and eq options are the best.